I'm not officially recognised as a Yorkshireman - born in Lancashire (don't tell them here though), lived in Cheshire 11 years, Berwickshire 7 years, Northumberland 2 years, East Sussex 4 years and here 26 so take your pick  Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

Have you seen the depreciation on PHEVs and ZEVs? The top 10 worst depreciation cars in 2016 were not Lux barges and big SUV's but things like Nissan Leaf which after 3 years is worth 16% of the purchase price. OK so it doesn't cost as much as an RRS to buy but at least you get a bit of your money back when you come to sell the RRS, even if the RRS losses the equivalent to the value of a Nissan Leaf in 3 years. The only PHEVs/ZEVs that seem to hold any value are the range extender BMW i3 and i8 and the Tesla S even Muddy's Mitusibishi isn't that greater at holding it's value - are people worried about the cost of replacement batteries at 7 years old? My parents have a friend who bought a Renault Zoe in 2015 to replace his Honda Jazz and wanted to upgrade to the latest one with 180 miles range instead of his 80 miles.............. part exchange value was ZERO, the Renault dealer didn't want it back and he had lost £18000 in 12 months.............. 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - soon to be replaced
2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

Depreciation is a little worrying but I did get big discount and tax incentives so hoping it will soften the blow

The pure EV like leaf don't fit everyone use and some batteries are leased which may be part of the depreciation issue

The phev should fare better thanks to petrol engine backup making it more practical and having seen my £60k RRS worth £36 after 2 years it can't get any worse having paid £25k new for the phev and planning to keep it 3-5 years

Still a lot of sceptical fossil fuel burning owners out there which doesn't help but hopefully once they see the future isn't as scary as they thought things will improve  Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

Tim in Scotland - Say it as it is
That's Muddy's 2017 completely  In Spain - 2018 F Pace - Frightened away from the Sports due to crank failures
Gone - A couple of RRS, A couple of Disco's. However thinking of another Sport.

muddywheels wrote:

I'm not officially recognised as a Yorkshireman - born in Lancashire (don't tell them here though), lived in Cheshire 11 years, Berwickshire 7 years, Northumberland 2 years, East Sussex 4 years and here 26 so take your pick

Still only works out at 50  In Spain - 2018 F Pace - Frightened away from the Sports due to crank failures
Gone - A couple of RRS, A couple of Disco's. However thinking of another Sport.

That's a relief considering my 50th was last week  Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

muddywheels wrote:

Still a lot of sceptical fossil fuel burning owners out there which doesn't help but hopefully once they see the future isn't as scary as they thought things will improve

Oi , that's enough of that talk .....my whole business sector is based upon that fear that we can't live without fossil fuels....  ON THE WAY: BMW F21 M140i
MERCEDES GL350 - Metallic Navy Blue w/Grey interior

GOING: BMW F31 335D MSport+ xDrive Touring
GONE: Land Rover Discovery 4 HSE - Stornaway Grey w/Black Interior (wish we'd kept it )
GONE: BMW F10 520D MSport - Carbon Black
GONE:MY12 RRS SDV6 HSE Sumatra/Ivory/Grand Black Privacy glass

SRE wrote:

muddywheels wrote:

I'm not officially recognised as a Yorkshireman - born in Lancashire (don't tell them here though), lived in Cheshire 11 years, Berwickshire 7 years, Northumberland 2 years, East Sussex 4 years and here 26 so take your pick

Still only works out at 50

He doesn't count the 20 he was staying in 'at her majesty's pleasure'  ON THE WAY: BMW F21 M140i
MERCEDES GL350 - Metallic Navy Blue w/Grey interior

GOING: BMW F31 335D MSport+ xDrive Touring
GONE: Land Rover Discovery 4 HSE - Stornaway Grey w/Black Interior (wish we'd kept it )
GONE: BMW F10 520D MSport - Carbon Black
GONE:MY12 RRS SDV6 HSE Sumatra/Ivory/Grand Black Privacy glass

 Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

Heard there was an earthquake off the Yorkshire coast yesterday, not sure, but did Muddy drop his wallet  In Spain - 2018 F Pace - Frightened away from the Sports due to crank failures
Gone - A couple of RRS, A couple of Disco's. However thinking of another Sport.

if he had the moths would have made it fly away

My wallet is a lot lighter after xmas and my Birthday

I thought I was supposed to get big presents but it appears I'm meant to spend a load of money treating everyone else

Anyway I'm the eldest sibling so I've set the bar for the future  Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

What no posts Muddy, please don't tell us you have flogged the float. Or is it a case of shell shock, spending all your ill gotten gains over Christmas, plus reaching what age  In Spain - 2018 F Pace - Frightened away from the Sports due to crank failures
Gone - A couple of RRS, A couple of Disco's. However thinking of another Sport.

Nothing to report SRE - no faults, no refuels, no dealer visits

Just preheating and driving about my business

Hopefully getting some snow this week so I can finally test the winter tyres and how it behaves then report back  Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

Lets hope so Muddy.

Everytime you buy winter tyres, we seem to have a very mild winter. Your winter tyres must be passed their best now..

SRE is praying for some snow for you Muddy, just so that you can give him a report on how the PHEV performs.
He signs in daily to to see if you have anything to report....