muddywheels wrote:

Agree Nigel - buying new is a mugs game

I only bought the PHEV new for the huge discount/tax breaks and looking to keep it 3-5 years then buy used next time unless I get a cracking deal new

Have you got the years mixed up with months Muddy,,,,you are know on about a Lexus,,going from a Mitsy to a Toyota,,it gets better.

Andy Andy.
21 Ford Ranger
Gone but not forgotten
Focus RS Red Edition
2015 RRS AB Fuji.
2014 RRS SC Santorini
2016 VW Amarok
2014 RRS AB Fuji
2012 RRS Red Edition Fuji
2015 Nissan Navara
2012 RRS SE Santorini
2008 RRS White
2007 RRS Santorino

We will see but with 3 years servicing included and 5/8 year warranty can't see me changing unless the PHEV gets dropped off a ramp or needs to keep going to dealer for issues  Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

I've done the Toymota thing, it got pretty bad when everyone kept referring to it a "Micky Mouse Range Rover"  In Spain - 2018 F Pace - Frightened away from the Sports due to crank failures
Gone - A couple of RRS, A couple of Disco's. However thinking of another Sport.

I had a Landcruiser before I got the LR bug  Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

No posts over the weekend Muddy Have you flogged the float  In Spain - 2018 F Pace - Frightened away from the Sports due to crank failures
Gone - A couple of RRS, A couple of Disco's. However thinking of another Sport.

Not PHEV related Muddy but I had an LX470 (gussied up Land Cruiser) when I lived in the USA. It was the smoothest ride and the smoothest V8 I have ever driven. I bought it with 70,000 miles on it. It was a fantastic long distance car and was as at home driving 500 miles a day as it was pulling a boat up the ramp, and driving in the sand. It always detailed up like new, it felt indestructible. We drove all over the southern USA in it. I sold it and lost very little in depreciation. Gone - 2008 Stornoway Grey RRS 2.7 TDV6
Gone - 2009 Buckingham Blue RRS 2.7 TDV6
Gone - 2010 Alaska White RRS 5.0 V8 Aspirated
Gone - 2017 Chawton White RRS 5.0 V8 Supercharged
Current - 2010 Java Black RRS 5.0 V8 Aspirated
Current- 2024 RRS P400 SE Dynamic

Still got the PHEV SRE but nothing of interest to post - it's just doing what I want cheaply and giving no trouble

I've ordered some winter tyres over weekend and will be seeing Tyrefitter (Andy) soon as they arrive to get them fitted if that's of interest

BKHK - I bought the Landcruiser in 97 after test driving my dream vehicle at the time (Disco 1) - unfortunately the D1 shattered the fantasy compared to the Landcruiser and all the reports about Discovery being nicknamed "Recovery" in Oz filled me with dread

The Landcruiser was good enough but suffered from poor dealers and naff interior - replaced by a FL1 when I lost my job in 2000 and that was the start of my LR era and never thought I'd buy anything else  Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

Will be interesting to see if the cold weather effects the battery's charge, and mileage achieved

used to do my head in pulling out my camera whilst snowboarding and it dying a flat battery death due to the cold zapping the power

muddywheels wrote:

I've ordered some winter tyres over weekend and will be seeing Tyrefitter (Andy) soon as they arrive to get them fitted if that's of interest

Let me know when you get them,,don't forget to bring your plug to charge the float up to get you back home .

Andy. Andy.
21 Ford Ranger
Gone but not forgotten
Focus RS Red Edition
2015 RRS AB Fuji.
2014 RRS SC Santorini
2016 VW Amarok
2014 RRS AB Fuji
2012 RRS Red Edition Fuji
2015 Nissan Navara
2012 RRS SE Santorini
2008 RRS White
2007 RRS Santorino

I may have to borrow a socket while you're doing the tyres  Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

[quote="npinks"]Will be interesting to see if the cold weather effects the battery's charge, and mileage achieved


Never a truer word

I doubt Muddy will be able to use the Air Con / Heating as he will have to used the old internal combustion engine, this means petrol, now that will up his money saving calculations.  In Spain - 2018 F Pace - Frightened away from the Sports due to crank failures
Gone - A couple of RRS, A couple of Disco's. However thinking of another Sport.

The heating/air con like everything essential on the phev is electrical so no engine required

Climbed in the pre heated phev this morning and did my normal 11 mile trip with heated seat/steering wheel and lovely warm air coming out the vents from stop to start - no petrol used used despite the warning chime for low temp/ice

I admit the battery range has dropped to around 20 miles (costs me approx 90p to recharge) - still better than doing similar distance in RRS/winter @ £5.31/gallon when mpg also dropped like a stone

More worrying though - we've got a snow warning today/tomorrow here and my winter tyres have not arrived  Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

Had to fill our PHEV up with petrol after a month. just under 700 miles and about £15 in elec. - very cheap running about.

Pre-heating on a timer is a good feature which means the PHEV vanishes to the first one out in the morning.

Glad I'm not the only one dipping my toe in this new fangled mode of transport





You appear to be missing your milk float label though  Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

^^^ Yup, we're very satisfied with it.

It may not have the 'olde' world and traditional interior of the JLR products but this has led to them becoming bloated and overweight in my opinion. The quality of the JLR products has not improved with pricing that is what the market will bear (and is more about status symbols). North of £80k is more than I'm prepared to stump up for a car to park on the drive and watch depreciate.

My first RR was a 1 years old 1972 2 door and since then I've had more than 12, but the RRS will be the last. Reliability, dealership arrogance being other major turn-offs.