TDV8HST wrote:

SVR at £107 /? there was thread on here where there where some good discounts on showroom ,cancelled order cars.
Keep yours this will lose the same or more.

I managed to get a much better deal after speaking to several dealers SVR now ordered and due end of October

 Current: Volvo XC90 T8 Inscription Pro PHEV with some optionals on top
Gone: MY16 RRS2 3.0 SDV6 Autobiography Dynamic, Carpathian Grey & Santorini Black Sliding Pano/Ebony & Ivory 2 Tone
Gone: MY13 RRS 3.0 SDV6 HSE Black Edition, Orkney Grey/Ivory
Gone: MY09 RRS 2.7 TDV6 HSE, Santorini Black/Almond

I wonder if used SVR's are pitched at such big margins to encourage buyers to order a factory build and earn the dealership a bigger bonus from LR?
If they take one in part ex at say £85k even if they have to sell it on at £95k to a specialist dealer like Tom Hartley, then they are still laughing and they have sold another new one which earns brownie points from LR that the used one didn't. 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
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Mark_N wrote:

But, you are probably saying, "WBAC are rubbish and offer rock bottom". In my experience when I sold my Evoque, they offered more than the LR dealer.

Thats an interesting link, I've got a 9 month old Disco 4 and went to a localist dealer the other week to look at a used RRS they offered me a stupidly low part ex in my opinion, basically my car has lost 23k in 9 months, I've just used that link and they offered me the lowest amount. also if you try to put a used car off a dealers web site into the calculator then it won't give you a price and therefore you can't see how much they actually would give you for one of their own cars as part ex.

They wonder why people hate dealing with car dealers when they blatantly rip their customers off like this, and they're surprised when you're insulted by their part ex prices

Has lost 23k in 9 months

Always reckon on £800-900 per month on RRS2 so something not quite right here unless you put on a load of extras at time of purchase and these are usually ignored when you px

No I only added a few k with a black pack. Tow bar an I think that was it. Mine is a hse luxury so it's top of the range anyway. I'll be looking at porsches as well as they don't lose anywhere near the money land rovers do. I love land rovers and I work for them so get discount but the dealer network is atrocious

These prices shown on the link to LR, are so unrealistic and a complete rip off, it cannot be true, anyone accepting those prices obviously has to much money.
Their prices don't ask for any relevant details of what your car has etc, and yes I know extras packs don't increase price much, but some of what people would say are sure essentials, are not taken into consideration at all, and believe me you will pay for all those extra "Packs" fitted, if you are purchasing pre-owned vehicle. If this is an example of the "CON" that Land Rover are pulling, you should refuse to deal with them full stop, the mark ups etc they get, they don't need to rip you off any further. The SVR model is a pure profit gold mine for both LR and dealers, and the discounts given are appalling considering the stiocks they actually have unsold, which might not be the actual choice you want but you can save a mint, from a genuine person selling that wants your repeat trade and servicing. I have compared the prices for several LR vehicles, by using Glass's guide which is giving on average 12% - 20% more listed, the LR low mileage isn't even in the price differences, until you go over 10k miles each year owned, no reduction for only doing 4-5,000 miles a year.
My brothers showroom/service centre (where I get the previous issue of that Glass's guide from) said unless you are getting a massive discount on the new list price, then whatever you do, don't trade in through LR dealers, his other advice is never to use WBAC, as price nearly is always put down at least twice from quote given, and also reduces daily in price, and further on inspection. Be careful out there, and try alternative dealers for trade-ins and purchase price.  John

RRS MY12 SDV6 HSE. Sumatra Black/Ebony & Walnut + Dynamic Pack, + Cold Climate Pack + Memory Pack, Digital TV/DVD, Premium Leather, Cornering Lights, Cooler/Fridge Box, & most Options.

Registered Dec 2015 (65 plate) list £88K. Mint condition with 7800 miles.

Tesla, I am told, use 3rd party px buyers and don't offer any discount on either new or used vehicles. i.e. the price you see online/dealership is what you pay. Told today that my pride and joy is only worth to them £55.5K. Excuse was they are inundated with people like me trying to bale out of RRS diesels. They have a glut of them and can't shift them at anything like prices of only a few months ago....hence now hitting people such as myself in the proverbial nuts!

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What many purchasers of new cars don't realise is that the minute you have purchased it, it looses a minimum of 20% VAT plus other taxes and then depreciation very fast. If purchasing new then you must forget what you paid for it, values will generally only go down. If your that unhappy that you want rid in less than a year or two, what do you expect?.
Many people are getting worried about purchasing Diesels to, with the threatened new taxes and dearer Fuel. John

RRS MY12 SDV6 HSE. Sumatra Black/Ebony & Walnut + Dynamic Pack, + Cold Climate Pack + Memory Pack, Digital TV/DVD, Premium Leather, Cornering Lights, Cooler/Fridge Box, & most Options.

Beware of the Diesels as i fear this sort of thing is going to get worse. SVR 2018 in Santorini Black.

duvl - I feel for you its probably worth £63 - £65k retail but the dealers want a decent margin as they can sit on stock for a few months as they are reluctant to move on sale prices. You could try speaking to quality traders and put it on sale or return to get more back or even asking them to buy it you should get a little more than a PX value.

Johnski - The comment on it losing 20% straight away isn't really fair its more salesman speak which you get told every time when you try to change a new car after a short time period but the reality in my view is dealers are to greedy if you compare trade in prices with resale but that's coming from a customer view point.

Gjw1 I agree on the losses on new cars it's all supply & demand, I had a brand new X type in 2001 that I waited 7 months for, owned it for 1.5 years & only lost about £2.5k on it as there were very few used about at the time. RRS have also had great residuals up till recently but you now should get at least £5-7k discount/over allowance on your trade in when you buy one new so this should make up for a slightly higher loss when you trade it in. The guys who buy without hard negotiation & playing dealers off against each other are the ones I feel for as they will pay nearly full price & get a small extra margin on their trade in if they are lucky! In my experience with prestige dealers on new cars, you have to treat them like insurance companies, I always go back to the supplying dealer first when I change but normally they cannot or will not deal again but someone else will! The internet is a great leveller, I would travel anywhere in the U.K. To do the deal on a new high end car as it has saved me thousands each time in the past.

If it's the same dealer, I would drive down the price of the SVR and accept your trade in value.
You can't really negotiate the trade in as YOU want to get rid of it but you can negotiate the SVR as THEY want to get rid of it (even at a loss sometimes just to make their books look good) 2016 RRS SVR Estoril Blue
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