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PHinett



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United Kingdom 2008 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Java Black
Need a new EGR valve

I need a new EGR valve but have a couple of questions.

The local 4x4 garage said it's the near side one which needs replacing, now is this the drivers side or passenger side?

Looking through some parts websites such as duckworths it states left & right side part, is this from facing the bonnet outside or sitting in the car?

Also, i have seen some marked as genuine land rover, and some as Valeo...are these the same part?

Garage quoted me £280 for the part alone (not a land rover garage), but i've seen prices from £145 - £420 for the part.

I believe the part number i am looking for is LR018322, is this correct?

Thank You. 57 Reg TDV8 - Java Black - Privacy Glass - Side Steps Smile

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Disco_Mikey



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Blank them Thumbs Up

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I can blank them off and do the software update for you so you don't have the problem ever again. Available tomorrow if you wanted?

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Tdv8... Let the garage blank them and I'll do the software update. Whistle Bodsys Brake Bible
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Camelrock



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United Kingdom 2008 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Tangiers Orange

N/S is the passenger side and O/S the drivers.. 2008 G4 RRSport TDV8 current
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Post #486334 Mon Feb 01 2016 10:22pm
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PHinett



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United Kingdom 2008 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Java Black

If blanking them will it still pass emissions test at MOT?

Also what is the cost for the software update, which i'm presuming gets rid of any EML?

I presume i may as well blank both valves at the same time, is it much more work to blank both of them rather than just the 1 side? 57 Reg TDV8 - Java Black - Privacy Glass - Side Steps Smile

Post #486337 Mon Feb 01 2016 10:24pm
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Lost for Words



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Yep, will pass the test fine and the EML is dealt with by the software. Due to the software patch, you can only blank both together - and then no more failures. Smile Thumbs Up Visiting from DISCO3.CO.UK
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redamo



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Total cost of blanking plus software patch is more or less the same as with getting both EGR valves replaced for a TDV8. I know as I'm in the same position as you, but I would probably go with replacing the EGR valves. Each choice has its own (dis)advantages.

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Disco_Mikey



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If it's any consolation, the TDV8 valves give much less problems than the V6's Thumbs Up

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Lost for Words



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redamo wrote:
Total cost of blanking plus software patch is more or less the same as with getting both EGR valves replaced for a TDV8. I know as I'm in the same position as you, but I would probably go with replacing the EGR valves. Each choice has its own (dis)advantages.


What are, in your opinion, the disadvantages of blanking them? Why would you choose to replace them - "environmental" reasons, I presume? Visiting from DISCO3.CO.UK
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Paddi



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Apologies for a slight thread hijack but people keep going on about blanking TDV8 EGRs but despite hunting high and low and reading numerous posts on different forums I have yet to find a blanking kit for a TDV8 - so what's the answer? Do you just use the same blanking kits as for a TDV6? 2008 MY Java Black TDV8 HSE

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redamo



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@Paddi, no it isn't the same kit hence the slightly higher cost. BAS is selling the kit and the software patch if you're interested with positive results.

@LfW, yes, environmental reason is the main one. Also, I've read about (very few) isolated cases where there were issues either with limb mode or EML light coming on for no reason (despite patch applied). Could be an cheapo kit/software, I don't know. But what exactly are we hoping to achieve? Breathing more clean air into the engine? Not sure if we have any proof of this actually prolonging its life. And between giving cleaner air to a machine or to birds and humans around, probably I'll chose the latter. Another reason for blanking seems to be saving money in long term (as no need to replace EGRs when they fail). Well, considering that normally they are likely to fail once every 100-150k (roughly) I don't see this is a big advantage. Again, it's my own opinion, I'm sure that others feel otherwise.

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Paddi



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@Paddi, no it isn't the same kit hence the slightly higher cost. BAS is selling the kit and the software patch if you're interested with positive results.


Ah OK thanks - the kits not listed on BAS website so I need to ring them? The EGR patch via IID tool is listed though. Thumbs Up 2008 MY Java Black TDV8 HSE

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Lost for Words



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redamo wrote:
@LfW, yes, environmental reason is the main one. Also, I've read about (very few) isolated cases where there were issues either with limb mode or EML light coming on for no reason (despite patch applied). Could be an cheapo kit/software, I don't know.


Yep, bad software patches are everywhere, hence it's strongly recommended to use trusted LR specialists like BAS and Alive. Thumbs Up

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But what exactly are we hoping to achieve? Breathing more clean air into the engine? Not sure if we have any proof of this actually prolonging its life.




I think it's safe to say that this is not good for the engine. TBH, such effects are well accepted to be true, but regulation means manufacturers have no choice so it just goes ahead. When you consider the great effort that goes into perfecting fine tolerances in an engine, I don't think there's any engineer in the world that thinks it wouldn't cause harm. Exclamation

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And between giving cleaner air to a machine or to birds and humans around, probably I'll chose the latter. Another reason for blanking seems to be saving money in long term (as no need to replace EGRs when they fail). Well, considering that normally they are likely to fail once every 100-150k (roughly) I don't see this is a big advantage. Again, it's my own opinion, I'm sure that others feel otherwise.


I don't disagree that consideration for the environment should be given as to EGR blanking, however, the arguments don't stack up because EGRs also cause a great increase in particulate matter which is the number one pollutant as regards health with a more significant effect than the NOx reduced. On a vehicle without a DPF there is all the more concern therefore. They also give an opportunity for the turbo(s) to overspeed. Aside from that, they simply aren't as effective in the real world as figures suggest and there can be genuine risk to life when they fail. While some valves manage to last a long while, the TDV6, ones for instance, are thought to have an average life much shorter than that, of perhaps 30-40k. Thumbs Up Visiting from DISCO3.CO.UK
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Donithediver



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Scotland 2006 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Java Black

ok this is very interesting. I looked at my egr valves and can see on top of the valve a small plate with two bolts,, is this whey get blanked off from can anyone tell me
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