The enjoyment of owning a RRS is fast disappearing if that is L/R attitude to this whole farce of their security. Come next year our insurance premiums will have gone through the roof, thats if there is an insurance company prepared to take the risk of insuring a RRS by then. First the spare wheels going missing, then the rear lights, then the front lights and grill, now the entire car Give me one good reason to own a RRS now.

Jane, how did they gain entry to your car? Pm me if you wish.

I know what you mean, been out off buying a newer LR due to this flaw in the security

But where do you go? Audi BMW etc all suffer

Seems that we need to go back to something with the old fashioned key...

Yes for a grand and keep the other £60k in the bank

JaneF wrote:

The police said they could have copied the signal from our key to a device to gain entry(?). I'm no expert on this, but we'd like a response from Land Rover as to what we should do(we are still awaiting their return call). If I deposited £65,000 in a bank account and two weeks later it disappeared, the bank would have a level of responsibility/accountability to me to assure their security systems, my investment, and their brand reputation.

Obviously the scumbags who steal are to blame but manufacturers make big claims about updated security of their products and massively increase prices yet it appears they can now be stolen easier than before - this does not add up  Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

If they make to technology available to every Tom Dick and Harry, what do they expect It should be licenced and regulated properly. Once it gets into the wrong hands, everyone that owns such a vehicle is potentially a victim. Whats the saying.... It takes a theif to catch a theif. Perhaps Thacham should employ a few.

In recent years we have added immobilisers, dead locks, laminated glass, interior sensors and coded keys to make cars more difficult to steal then stories of houses being broken into for keys started to surface but now they can take it or remove the contents/lights/grille without a scratch leaving you potentioly uninsured

And don't get me started on the mouse under the bonnet that squeaks if the alarm is triggered  Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

Ady 555 wrote:

If they make to technology available to every Tom Dick and Harry, what do they expect It should be licenced and regulated properly. Once it gets into the wrong hands, everyone that owns such a vehicle is potentially a victim. Whats the saying.... It takes a theif to catch a theif. Perhaps Thacham should employ a few.

Found this article which was interesting

http://topmotors.com/news/post/top-ten-mos...-in-the-uk

Defender is the most nicked car the UK, with the RR in 6th. The rest of the top 10 are various german marques.

And interestingly, after London, the next worse area for stolen cars is....Bradford....

Well... Land Rover made a service action here in Sweden, recalling Disco 4, RRS (old and new) to have updated security systems.

Older cars got new hardware and software, newer cars (like my new RRS) only new software.

A lot of new model RR and RRS have been stolen here! (and still are) Range Rover Sport SDV6 Autobiography Dynamic -14
Defender 110 SW LXV -14
Range Rover 5.0 Supercharged -10

RRSTDV8 wrote:

Ady 555 wrote:

If they make to technology available to every Tom Dick and Harry, what do they expect It should be licenced and regulated properly. Once it gets into the wrong hands, everyone that owns such a vehicle is potentially a victim. Whats the saying.... It takes a theif to catch a theif. Perhaps Thacham should employ a few.

If they're prepared to steal a car do you really think they'll care about whether their theft technology is legal or not? If something can be stolen then it will be - they'll just get hold of (and then clone) the relevant kit even if it's "licenced and regulated". Getting some young mechanic in a dealership to "lose the kit" for an hour so it could be cloned wouldn't be that difficult.

Do you honestly think they would let a young apprentice loose with such an important licenced piece of kit Certainly not where i take my car. Because this kit isn't licenced, anyone can get hold of one, hence why we now have this big mess of security on anything with a remote control or keyless entry. If the kits wasn't widely available, then the problem wouldn't be as bad as it is today. I'm not saying it wouldn't exsist. I'm not surprised Bradford is an hotspot either, but i won't say on a public forum my reasons why.

Hi All,

I​ would like to share with you a response in relation this concern that I have provided to a member of this forum.

As a responsible manufacturer I can assure you that the security of our vehicles is of the highest priority to us and we work closely with Thatcham in order to take every possible step to prevent against vehicle theft.

​A​s you can appreciate we cannot control the actions of the individuals involved in such criminal activity, and therefore, like all manufacturers, we cannot provide guarantee that a vehicle will never be stolen but we do look to ensure that it is as difficult as possible.

We will always look to make improvements to the security systems fitted to our vehicles and investigate any situations where there is a concern regarding the security of a vehicle.

As always if anyone requires direct assistance regarding a related incident, please contact me directly and I would be more than happy to help.

Many thanks,
Pete Please note although Land Rover will try to assist you with your issue, we are unable to provide any technical advice. This account is available between 0900 and 17:00 hours Monday – Friday. Outside of this time if you require assistance, please drop us a Private Message and we'll get back to you.

Pete, I think that what we are all looking for is a sign that JLR are taking this matter seriously and are actively looking at improving security on such an expensive vehicle.

Jim

Ady 555 wrote:

RRSTDV8 wrote:

Ady 555 wrote:

If they make to technology available to every Tom Dick and Harry, what do they expect It should be licenced and regulated properly. Once it gets into the wrong hands, everyone that owns such a vehicle is potentially a victim. Whats the saying.... It takes a theif to catch a theif. Perhaps Thacham should employ a few.

If they're prepared to steal a car do you really think they'll care about whether their theft technology is legal or not? If something can be stolen then it will be - they'll just get hold of (and then clone) the relevant kit even if it's "licenced and regulated". Getting some young mechanic in a dealership to "lose the kit" for an hour so it could be cloned wouldn't be that difficult.

Do you honestly think they would let a young apprentice loose with such an important licenced piece of kit Certainly not where i take my car. Because this kit isn't licenced, anyone can get hold of one, hence why we now have this big mess of security on anything with a remote control or keyless entry. If the kits wasn't widely available, then the problem wouldn't be as bad as it is today. I'm not saying it wouldn't exsist. I'm not surprised Bradford is an hotspot either, but i won't say on a public forum my reasons why.