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Melbop

Member Since: 01 Nov 2010
Location: Sleaford Lincolnshire
Posts: 46

2009 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Stornoway Grey

Tell em to av a look at the turbo air intake pipes?
See if the inner lining has come adrift,loose and blocking the air flow whilst under suction ?
It's happened many times before.

Sun Feb 06 2011 4:16pm

timcom0

Member Since: 11 Jul 2009
Location: Sheffield
Posts: 235

2007 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Java Black

Well I have been back to dealer today to ask what they have done so far, which there explanation
seems to be plugged computer in checked cam sensors and timing sensors which are ok but they still insist
that the engine needs replacing?
When asked have they checked the EGR Valves answer no, when asked had they checked the fuel line from tank to pump and the outlet answer no, given that there are no warnings lit up no sensors showing faulty, ho can they assume that a four year old car needs a new engine, I am amased to say the least in our these people run dealerships, which they are still going to report to LR that it requires a new engine
I have stated that On reply from LR if they want money from me that it's going to another Dealer for second
opinion after that I'm at a loss.

Mon Feb 07 2011 3:11pm

timcom0

Member Since: 11 Jul 2009
Location: Sheffield
Posts: 235

Well dreaded phone call came back LR aren't going to stand by the warranty and state that car is to old, on a 56?
I have spoken to customer care team to dispute and awaiting their reply but looks like going to get a second opinion but have been quoted 8000 including pump

Mon Feb 07 2011 7:22pm

UK Guy

Member Since: 28 Nov 2010
Location: Staffs
Posts: 149

2013 Range Rover Sport SDV6 Autobiography Santorini Black

Tim
Has the car got full service history? How many miles has it covered?

Reason I ask is a guy I know with a 520d which is a 53 plate (yes 7 years old) with a full BMW history had a common issue with the BMW 520d on the intake - somthing imploded Which mashed the engine. He took them to court over it, BMW left it to the final second before settling out of court + they paid his fees.

Not sure on exact figure he got but was over 5k to end the case against them.

Don't matter if your out of guarantee, the engine should not have failed.
As long as there was oil in it and not abused I would take this legal.
You don't buy a 50k car to last a 4 years! RRS HSE with a few extras & a
2013 RRS Autobiography

Mon Feb 07 2011 7:46pm

timcom0

Member Since: 11 Jul 2009
Location: Sheffield
Posts: 235

UK Guy wrote:
Tim
Has the car got full service history? How many miles has it covered?

Reason I ask is a guy I know with a 520d which is a 53 plate (yes 7 years old) with a full BMW history had a common issue with the BMW 520d on the intake - somthing imploded Which mashed the engine. He took them to court over it, BMW left it to the final second before settling out of court + they paid his fees.

Not sure on exact figure he got but was over 5k to end the case against them.

Don't matter if your out of guarantee, the engine should not have failed.
As long as there was oil in it and not abused I would take this legal.
You don't buy a 50k car to last a 4 years!

It has however, the services by me weren't at a LR garage but one local to me who I have used and trusted for years, and I use the service plan to book it in with him.
I have explained this to dealer who classes this as part history, I have since complained again th LR customer services who are looking into it but don't hold much luck. I have also spoken to another dealer in Huddersfield who is willing to atke it in for second opinion, so will see how I get on with that, but don't know what present dealer is going to charge, I would expect nothing since he's proved nothing but have to wait and see.
Thanks

Mon Feb 07 2011 8:09pm

UK Guy

Member Since: 28 Nov 2010
Location: Staffs
Posts: 149

The Law allows this, you don't have to have the car serviced by dealer (for guarantee) as long as they use LR parts
So if you have kept up the service history to book then this is a FULL service history.

About the only good law we were blessed with from Europe!!

Sounds like they just plugged the diag computer in if as you say they have not checked egr etc. RRS HSE with a few extras & a
2013 RRS Autobiography

Mon Feb 07 2011 8:45pm

Melbop

Member Since: 01 Nov 2010
Location: Sleaford Lincolnshire
Posts: 46

No mention of the turbo air intake pipes then?

Mon Feb 07 2011 9:15pm

Ady 555
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Member Since: 12 Dec 2010
Location: Good old yorkshire
Posts: 8738

2012 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Santorini Black

Ask them for a full written diagnostic report, they are been a bit vague on the faults found.
Ady

Mon Feb 07 2011 9:23pm

timcom0

Member Since: 11 Jul 2009
Location: Sheffield
Posts: 235

Ady 555 wrote:
Ask them for a full written diagnostic report, they are been a bit vague on the faults found.
Ady

No mention of ait intake pipes juust a big no when I asked,
I will be asking for a diagnostic report once I get the answer from LR then will need the report for the other dealer for second opinion, thanks all for info.
I am sat awaiting the answer with the usual dread of going near a dealer but this time more than usual as I have for once taken sometime of work just to chill not actually go anywhere just chill out and enjoy some pleasure driving and couldn't even get a courtesy car as they are booked three weeks in advance, right so another bum answer.

Mon Feb 07 2011 10:43pm

Ady 555
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Member Since: 12 Dec 2010
Location: Good old yorkshire
Posts: 8738

Good luck matey.

Tue Feb 08 2011 8:03am

timcom0

Member Since: 11 Jul 2009
Location: Sheffield
Posts: 235

Ady 555 wrote:
Good luck matey.

No luck they still maintain has been driven with low oil stating they measured 3.6l to go in car, funny looks like it hasn't been touched.
So LR Customer services say they may pay a small token gesture if I have a new engine fitted, so taking the car away to another dealer tomorrow for a second opinion, has been in guys for 11 days and they wouldn't release without I paid 3 hours diagnostics 306.00 or 7458.00 if I wanted the new engine fitted, so see what the next dealer has to say.

Tue Feb 08 2011 10:41pm

hogberto

Member Since: 08 Jan 2011
Location: Edinburgh
Posts: 67

2006 Range Rover Sport Supercharged Rimini Red

keep us posted.

is it worth trying to pick up a reconditioned engine?

a quick search brought these people up:

http://www.nationalenginecentre.co.uk/mode...del_id=296

but there may be others similar.

good luck tomorrow.

Tue Feb 08 2011 11:08pm

timcom0

Member Since: 11 Jul 2009
Location: Sheffield
Posts: 235

timcom0 wrote:
Ady 555 wrote:
Good luck matey.
No luck they still maintain has been driven with low oil stating they measured 3.6l to go in car, funny looks like it hasn't been touched.
So LR Customer services say they may pay a small token gesture if I have a new engine fitted, so taking the car away to another dealer tomorrow for a second opinion, has been in guys for 11 days and they wouldn't release without I paid 3 hours diagnostics 306.00 or 7458.00 if I wanted the new engine fitted, so see what the next dealer has to say.

The full diagnostice report word for word is;
CAR CUT OUT WONT START
CARRIED OUT CHECKS INTO ABOVE, REMOVE TIMING COVER AND CHECK BELT AND PUMP TIMING, FOUND TO BE OK REFIR FRONT COVERS ENG NOW STARTS BUT VERY NOISY, FOUND OIL LEVEL VERY LOW TOP UP BUT STILL NOISY, SUSPECT INTERNAL ENG FAULT.
*****************PLEASE NOTE*******************************
CUSTOMER TO TAKE AWAY CAR
PRICE FOR REPLACEMENT ENGINE 7458.00 INC VAT

Now the facts, at no point would car not start, the oil was checked for oil 3 days before so where did 3.6l of oil go bearing in mind the engine holds only 6.5l and no oil sensor light shown and doubt that the engine would run with only 2.9l of oil, wow how efficient and the panels they replaced are all in the boot not refitted.

Tue Feb 08 2011 11:18pm

timcom0

Member Since: 11 Jul 2009
Location: Sheffield
Posts: 235

Just an update, have now found that the camshaft chain has gone, can you believe it?
The chain has smashed to peices so bits of links throughout the engine which advise says
to install new engine, should this be tyhe case on a just four year old vehicles given that the timing belt is ok but a chain has given way

Wed Feb 16 2011 6:20pm

Ady 555
Site Moderator

Member Since: 12 Dec 2010
Location: Good old yorkshire
Posts: 8738

Do have any warranty at all? Premature failure i'd say considering cambelts don't need changing till 105000 miles, thanks for the update, where do you go from here? Where did i see a engine and box for sale yesterday? i'll have a search.
Ady

Wed Feb 16 2011 8:49pm

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