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pjdow



Member Since: 01 Dec 2021
Location: Sheffield
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Broken crank

Hi

My crank has broken, in Europe on holiday

Annoying to say the least.

Any recommended repairers is the question

Grateful for any suggestions

Regards

Post #640941 Fri Apr 05 2024 7:57am
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naks



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South Africa 2013 Range Rover Sport Supercharged Siberian Silver

ouch, sorry to hear that mate Sad

What is the year & mileage?

If you have FSH with Land Rover, you could approach them for a goodwill claim? --
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Post #640947 Fri Apr 05 2024 9:36am
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Andy K



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England 2005 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Rimini Red

It it’s a 3.0 oval autos.

Post #640960 Fri Apr 05 2024 11:24am
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pjdow



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2015/16

55000

13 services

Post #640983 Fri Apr 05 2024 8:13pm
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naks



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South Africa 2013 Range Rover Sport Supercharged Siberian Silver

if your services were at a Land Rover dealer, you should approach them for a claim --
2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear
2015 Range Rover Sport Supercharged V8 HSE Dynamic



Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9
Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO
Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ

Post #640984 Fri Apr 05 2024 8:15pm
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pjdow



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Sadly the last 3 years are local specialists, but logged on the landrover service portal.

Post #640985 Fri Apr 05 2024 8:19pm
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naks



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South Africa 2013 Range Rover Sport Supercharged Siberian Silver

I think you still have a chance here: take it to the last LR dealer you used and request a goodwill claim. --
2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear
2015 Range Rover Sport Supercharged V8 HSE Dynamic



Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9
Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO
Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ

Post #640986 Fri Apr 05 2024 8:20pm
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Crs



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England 2013 Range Rover Sport Supercharged Autobiography Firenze Red

Sorry to hear this , you must be devastated, how landrover ever got away with this catastrophic failure I will never understand, as said see if you can get something out of them but I wouldn’t hold your breath on it. Land Rover should have been taken to court over this.
Good luck

Post #641032 Mon Apr 08 2024 5:48am
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pjdow



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To put this one to bed

I spoke to 4 different garages about the problem and an engine builder.

I won't mention the many experts on Facebook talking complete rubbish

The engine builder was interesting, as he had knowledge of the Lion V6 problems but does not work on them. He gave me 30 minutes of his time offering suggestions and pointers to look out for.

The main point being "do not fit Chinese or Turkish pattern crankshafts" the are very difficult to balance properly and often fail.

Of the 4 I spoke to only one gave me the same independent narrative about what can and cannot be done with a broken engine.

As it happens the crank had not broken but I had spun a bearing.

A new block, secondhand block, was sourced and the original crank reused as it was not damaged.

I have not had the car back a week and covered 700 miles so far. All good.

Fingers crossed for the future!

The company I used : - Oval Auto's, as recommended on here by Andy K.

Post #642904 Fri Jun 28 2024 12:31pm
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erickwan



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Crs wrote:
Sorry to hear this , you must be devastated, how landrover ever got away with this catastrophic failure I will never understand, as said see if you can get something out of them but I wouldn’t hold your breath on it. Land Rover should have been taken to court over this.
Good luck


Does this ever happen to Ford, Jaguar and Citroen?

Post #642906 Fri Jun 28 2024 1:19pm
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pjdow



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Yes, but the volumes sold, particularly with Citreon and Peugeot make is less visible.

Post #642911 Fri Jun 28 2024 2:19pm
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JonnyCJ



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Following on a bit - from what I’ve gleaned from speaking to those in the know, a snapped crank can result in a warped engine case. This then makes the case junk, but apparently it’s the rods that are the problem, as you can’t get them, so to rebuild an engine, you need to cannibalise good rods from another broken engine.

Post #642933 Sat Jun 29 2024 5:31pm
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naks



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South Africa 2013 Range Rover Sport Supercharged Siberian Silver

feel very sorry for this chap, first time I hear of this in an F-Pace: https://www.4x4community.co.za/forum/showt...ost5259042

Quote:
2017 F-Pace 3.0d AWD R-Sport
Serviced at JLR Stellenbosch in March 2024 at 82000km. Engine packed up at 84000km in May 2024 while driving 30km/h in a residential area. Initial quote was ZAR370 000 to replace engine. JLR stellenbosch offered to assist ~R70 000, putting cost of repair at R300 000

Assessment from JLR
The common fault we have encounter with these engines (3,0 TDV6) is that the crank shaft main bearings turns within the casing, when this happens
The oil supply to the bearings are then cut off causing bearing failure and then complete crankshaft failure. The crank shaft then breaks internally
Distorting the engine block causing irreparable damage to the engine assembly.
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2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear
2015 Range Rover Sport Supercharged V8 HSE Dynamic



Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9
Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO
Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ

Post #643244 Sat Jul 13 2024 11:43am
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