First the good news - now done over 700 miles and still over 1/3 original tank of petrol which cost me £40 - according to computer I'm averaging 3 miles per kW and 127 mpg

Now the news

I've been corresponding with Mitsubishi UK Customer Services regarding Winter Tyres and today received the following reply

Quote:

Dear Mr XXXXX,

Thank you for your e-mail.

The PHEV has never been tested or homologated with winter tyres, therefore we cannot recommend having winter tyres fitted.


Yours sincerely,

XXXXX

So that means the handbook is wrong

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The NL website is wrong

https://shop.mitsubishi-motors.nl/cat/band...bandensets

Also the PHEV must be illegal to drive in many European countries during winter where they are compulsory such as Austria, Czech Republic, Finland, Germany, Slovakia and Sweden

http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/overs...tyres.html

My dealer has offered me a set of 16" Steel wheels like these with winter tyres. They are a lot more expensive than in the NL - he obviously doesn't know they can't be fitted here and I guess Brexit is to blame for the price difference not Rip off Britain



Such a shame after 2 weeks PHEV ownership to experience this kind of service - it took me 16 years to feel like this about Land Rover  Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

You had better hurry up buying a series 2 then. Looks like the PHEV will be parked up over winter if it is going to be a very cold one.

Personally I wouldn't worry about winter tyres. Look how much money you wasted on winter tyres for your RRS. We had the mildest winter for years.

It's not as though you live high up in the mountains. Just go with the wheels and tyres that are on the car and see how it copes.

We all know you are looking for an excuse to return to a Range Rover...
Looks like you have just found it.

You may be right Ady - I never thought about winter tyres until I got the RRS and joined this forum

We haven't had a bad winter for years so I never found out if the winter tyres work - the DS was great on Goodyear wrangler all season the 1 day we had snow last winter - the RRS was on Conti Sumner tyres and all season tyres when we had snow

I think the 20" wide low profile tyres was main problem with RRS but the phev has 18" narrow tyres so may be ok - I just don't fancy finding out the hard way

For the last 26 years I had the option to stay at home if the weather was bad but now I live in the country will have to drive whatever the weather which is my concern

Cheapest option would be to fit Vredestein Quatrac 5 all season on existing wheels and ditch the summer Toyo but I've also read the ground alloys don't like salt so a second set seems a good idea  Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

Muddy, I live high up on the pennines and we get more snow than most. I have never got to the point where I have been stuck. Yes winter tyres do make a huge difference when the weather gets really bad. The problem is, all those inexperienced drivers not running winter tyres, get stuck and block the road, so you can't go anywhere. Just to point out, I haven't always had a 4x4 either. Adjust your driving to the conditions and just hope someone else doesn't slide into you.
If you can't get to where you need to be because of snow. Then the chances are, no one else can. So you don't really need to be there.
So you can stay at home and wish you still had a RRS.

I'm a little paranoid as I've had 3 crashes in snow and ice admittedly in 2wds - I agree it's the other muppets that are biggest concern though - regularly had boy racers flying past my LRs and nearly demolished by a white van man who lost it on bend coming towards us

Apparently the hill outside our village gets blocked by wagons and cars but I could use unsalted back roads to avoid it if the phev is up to it. Weekend isn't a problem but during week swmbo and an employee in our village need to get to our business and open up

Getting stuck isn't really my worry - it's stopping and steering in an emergency  Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

Muddy
How about a set of snow chains just in case of an emergency, I bet you would only ever require 2 and more than likely never be required and spend their entire life in the boot or under the back seat.

Lots of different types of Snow chains, even rubber snow chains.

Lets face it, you could have a BMW, now they are Crp in the snow.  In Spain - 2018 F Pace - Frightened away from the Sports due to crank failures
Gone - A couple of RRS, A couple of Disco's. However thinking of another Sport.

muddywheels wrote:

I'm a little paranoid as I've had 3 crashes in snow and ice admittedly in 2wds

Sounds like you need to go on a winter off road driving course Muddy with that winter driving history.

Buy some of the winter socks that are available.
http://www.snowchainsandsocks.co.uk/?gclid...0wodKiEBvg

For the odd day we get snow, i'm sure these will be more than adequate. Even for your driving skills.

Not sure we ever get it bad enough here for snow chains and heard they damage tyres

I bought the Winter Socks for the Jag X type after I crashed it but never needed them again as I sold it PDQ

You may be right about the winter driving course Ady - apparently Police vehicles have summer tyres all year round and Fire service vehicles too - they seem to manage well enough even on emergency calls

I'm not even sure the Toyo fitted are a good summer tyre never mind suitable for winter  Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

Personally Muddy, i think you are worrying too much about it. Just enjoy the car for what it is.

If you crash in bad weather Don't worry about that either. (Assuming nobody gets hurt) It's not like you haven't crashed before....

Like i said, drive to the conditions of the road.

Funny enough - I have often been accused of worrying too much

It's not like things go wrong for me is it - I will try to chill

 Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

Good man.

i'm sure you have found this with your sweaty brow and worried fingers typing away

http://www.myoutlanderphev.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=973

But it looks as if the PHEV seems to cope with the white stuff ok, and a few giving brands they have fitted if your nerves get the better of you

(on a side note, what is it with the Mitsubishi used website, list cars appear, sort by cost low to high, high to low etc, no prices displayed)

Muddy
Don't panic, just carry a tow rope, then if, sorry, when you get stuck, just lookout for a friendly Land Rover/Range Rover/Disco passing by. In Spain - 2018 F Pace - Frightened away from the Sports due to crank failures
Gone - A couple of RRS, A couple of Disco's. However thinking of another Sport.

Cheers Nick - that does look promising - my neighbour who got me into phev says they're good too

I now just have to get over my budget tyre phobia

Yes the used website is stupid - I gave up and used Autotrader to check prices

I always carry a tow rope SRE for BMW and Merc assistance

Just noticed your sig  Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

Purchase all season tyres, then good regardless of weather.  John

RRS MY12 SDV6 HSE. Sumatra Black/Ebony & Walnut + Dynamic Pack, + Cold Climate Pack + Memory Pack, Digital TV/DVD, Premium Leather, Cornering Lights, Cooler/Fridge Box, & most Options.