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Jemmountford



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England 2006 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Buckingham Blue
EGR blanking

Morning folks,

Fitted an EGR blanking kit the other day to my '06 TDV6 but haven't removed the butterfly valve yet. Do I need to remove it or will it be fine leaving it in place?

Many thanks, Jem. 2006 Buckingham Blue TDV6 HSE

Post #447920 Fri Jan 09 2015 11:25am
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Disco_Mikey



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It is advisable to remove it, as when closed, there will be a huge depression in the intake system after the butterfly. This is less than ideal

Best to remove it, and keep fresh air coming into the engine at all times Thumbs Up

Post #447925 Fri Jan 09 2015 12:39pm
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Black Bess



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United Kingdom 2005 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Java Black

Can I ask, whilst Disco Mickey is around, what is the benefit of EGR blanking?

Clearly it saves replacing faulty parts, and avoids some oil contamination, but does it make much difference to performance, given that EGR normally only works at light throttle?

I ask in case my car would benefit.

And another thing, is it necessary to change (and flush) the transmission fluid, and at what interval?

Thanks
Adam..

Post #447933 Fri Jan 09 2015 1:37pm
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Disco_Mikey



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You will only notice a difference in performance, if you have an EGR issue Thumbs Up

If the valves are functioning as intended, you won't see any difference in blanking. However, if the valves are blanked before you have an issue, you will never know about it Thumbs Up

As well as being much, much cheaper

It is vital to flush the gearbox oil, to ensure all the old oil is removed from the gearbox, valve block and torque converter. ZF, who manufacture the gearbox, say it should be flushed between 50-75k miles, depending on use

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Post #447970 Fri Jan 09 2015 5:59pm
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Black Bess



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Thank you DM. Great advice as always.

Do you know if the LR agents offer this service? I know a local auto trans specialist, so will ask them too.

Thanks again
Adam..

Post #448405 Wed Jan 14 2015 9:24am
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Jemmountford



Member Since: 04 Oct 2014
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England 2006 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Buckingham Blue

Right,

After the sound advice above I removed the butterfly valve this afternoon. Really easy actually. I just did one thing in addition to the how to guide in that I removed the bolt holding the butterfly housing to the top of the engine and also disconnected the left hand egr pipe at the join near the top. This allowed me to pivot the complete housing upwards slightly where it branches into the Y pieces, its a bit stiff but I moved it about an inch and a half which gave me easy access to the fourth torx bolt. Other than that, piece of pi**!! Very Happy Can't claim all the credit though, found this little trick on a 4x4 dealers website where I had bought the blanking plates from Thumbs Up

Butterfly now removed and engine free to breath nice fresh air.

Cheers, Jem. 2006 Buckingham Blue TDV6 HSE

Post #448998 Mon Jan 19 2015 4:50pm
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Tony666



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Do you have any pics or a link to the instructions? I blanked off my egr valves a couple of years ago but didn't remove anything, am a bit concerned after reading what Mikey has said.....

Post #449036 Mon Jan 19 2015 8:10pm
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FatJoe



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United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HST Java Black

Removed mine completely including the pipes that we're no longer needed. I'm not Fat. RRS TDV6 HST.

Post #449037 Mon Jan 19 2015 8:31pm
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oldcro



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What if any are the downsides of blanking off the EGR?

If as suggested here there are improvements, why do they fit one in the first place?

Post #449067 Tue Jan 20 2015 12:35am
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cossiedave



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i removed everything on mine, egrs,pipes,cat,centra box insides,rear exhaust boxes and it goes well sounds great and better mpg Thumbs Up

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FatJoe



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I think they fit one because it helps reduce polution and gasses or something. But these build up, clog up and break and when they break are very costly. I'm not Fat. RRS TDV6 HST.

Post #449071 Tue Jan 20 2015 7:33am
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Lost for Words



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oldcro wrote:
What if any are the downsides of blanking off the EGR?

If as suggested here there are improvements, why do they fit one in the first place?


As above, they're fitted to reduce SO2 and NOx emissions - In the process, feeding filth into your engine. On (later) DPF models, they are used to control the exhaust gas temperatures for the DPF regeneration cycle too.

Blanking them will raise the EGTs a bit, BUT, when under load, they should be fully closed anyway. Wink

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Post #449080 Tue Jan 20 2015 9:32am
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oldcro



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Thanks for the replies folks, now it's clear why it's done. Thumbs Up

Post #449104 Tue Jan 20 2015 1:53pm
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Fritz



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When I removed the EGR's I fitted a K&N air filter and a Hiclone Air Swirling device. The effect was very good. Have since added a Allisport Intercooler. Result better fuel consumption and Performance.

Post #449623 Sat Jan 24 2015 5:06pm
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Lost for Words



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Fritz, just to let you know, such oiled filters can (and have been known to) cause damage to the MAF sensor. It's often said that the best thing is just to change the standard air filter more often. Wink

I have the Allisport IC too though (good but the RS500 install is cheaper). Thumbs Up Visiting from DISCO3.CO.UK
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Post #449689 Sun Jan 25 2015 9:27am
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