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oldcro



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Storing wheels and tyres.

I'm sure this has been asked many times before, but could find no reference when I tried a search.

When I took the summer wheels and tyres off last year I stored them upright against the garage wall after increasing the pressure to 40 PSI. This year after reading conflicting advice on the internet I decided to change my storage method and wondered which is best.

So I have stacked my winter wheels and tyres flat in the corner on wood, four high with 40 PSI in them. Any advice as to which is the best method greatly appreciated. Bow down

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V8 andy



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They will be fine stacked on top of each other.

Andy. Gone,,TDV8 arctic frost,black leather,colour coded handles,rear entertainment,sunroof.
1980 Rolls Royce,shadow 2 in white.
Gone 07/57 TDV8 santorino,black leather.chrome handle's/mirror's.
Gone 02/52 FFRR vogue.

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oldcro



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Thanks Andy. Thumbs Up

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mse



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I had until recently 5 sets of road and off road tyres for a range of cars/LR's.

I stored them stacked upright or on their side at normal preasures for years - no problems Mike

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DSL



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There's nothing like a healthy tyre stock, best use for a dining room ever! Whistle

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BKHK



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Wrong method V8 Andy, you are not correct.

Wheels and tyres should be stored on their "treads" and turned one quarter turn every month to prevent flatbspots. They should also be covered to guard against UV. Masking tape shpuld be placed in quarters like a cake and the segments numbered.

This is how tyres have to be stored in the aviation industry. Companies who stored wheels and tyres incorrectly would fail their safety audits. The method shown in the picture is not acceptable.

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oldcro



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BKHK wrote:
Wrong method V8 Andy, you are not correct.

Wheels and tyres should be stored on their "treads" and turned one quarter turn every month to prevent flatbspots. They should also be covered to guard against UV. Masking tape shpuld be placed in quarters like a cake and the segments numbered.

This is how tyres have to be stored in the aviation industry. Companies who stored wheels and tyres incorrectly would fail their safety audits. The method shown in the picture is not acceptable.


So I was wrong and should return the wheels and tyres back to the upright position standing on their treads. I knew this would happen as both methods have been claimed as the right way after Googling the question.

So why do tyre companies not state what the correct way when buying tyres, considering the number of owners who keep summer and winter tyres.

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This is what you need Thumbs Up
http://www2.westfalia.net/shops/car_access..._tidy.htm?
So this is you answer oldcro, let them rabble on about aviation tyres all night it doesn't concern you because your question was which is the best way to store your winter wheels and tyres Laughing Thumbs Up


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V8 andy



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Ady 555 wrote:
This is what you need Thumbs Up
http://www2.westfalia.net/shops/car_access..._tidy.htm?

Tks for that Ady,BKHK we are not storing aviation tyres,& you only have to turn then every now & then if they are on a vehicle especially those that leave caravans on their wheels 8 month a year then a soon as they set off on their hols they have blowouts.

Andy. Gone,,TDV8 arctic frost,black leather,colour coded handles,rear entertainment,sunroof.
1980 Rolls Royce,shadow 2 in white.
Gone 07/57 TDV8 santorino,black leather.chrome handle's/mirror's.
Gone 02/52 FFRR vogue.

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its not correct to say that in Aviation safety audits would be failed if tyres and wheels are stored horizontally

this is what michelin state


Store in the Dark

The storage room should be dark, or at least free from direct sunlight. Windows should be darkened with a coat of blue paint or covered with black plastic. Either of these will provide some diffused lighting during the daytime. Black plastic is preferred since it will lower the temperature in the room during the warm months and permit tires to be stored closer to the window. Fluorescent or mercury vapor lights should not be used

because they generate ozone. Low intensity sodium vapor lights are recommended. See the section on "Ozone" for more information.

Store tires vertically

Whenever possible, tires should be stored in regular tire racks which hold them up vertically. The surface of the tire rack on which the weight of the tire rests should be flat and, if possible, 3 to 4 inches wide to prevent permanent distortion of the tire.

Horizontal stacking of tires is not recommended

If tires are stacked horizontally, they may become distorted, resulting in mounting problems. This is particularly true of tubeless tires. Those on the bottom of a stack may have the beads pressed so closely together that bead spreader tools will have to be used to properly space the beads for contact with the wheel during initial inflation.

If tires must be stacked, they should not be stacked for more than 6 months maximum. The maximum stacking height - 3 tires high if tire diameter is greater than 40 inches. - 4 tires high if tire diameter is less than 40 inches.

An exception can be made for tires stored in boxes. Stacks of boxed tires must be checked to ensure that the bottom boxes are not crushed.

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Jmac



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Looks like this advice is for tyres not mounted on wheels. I have race cars with loads of different sets of wheels and tyres stored on the garage as per the picture above. Never had any problems whatsoever.

Cheers,
J


ronniet101 wrote:
its not correct to say that in Aviation safety audits would be failed if tyres and wheels are stored horizontally

this is what michelin state


Store in the Dark

The storage room should be dark, or at least free from direct sunlight. Windows should be darkened with a coat of blue paint or covered with black plastic. Either of these will provide some diffused lighting during the daytime. Black plastic is preferred since it will lower the temperature in the room during the warm months and permit tires to be stored closer to the window. Fluorescent or mercury vapor lights should not be used

because they generate ozone. Low intensity sodium vapor lights are recommended. See the section on "Ozone" for more information.

Store tires vertically

Whenever possible, tires should be stored in regular tire racks which hold them up vertically. The surface of the tire rack on which the weight of the tire rests should be flat and, if possible, 3 to 4 inches wide to prevent permanent distortion of the tire.

Horizontal stacking of tires is not recommended

If tires are stacked horizontally, they may become distorted, resulting in mounting problems. This is particularly true of tubeless tires. Those on the bottom of a stack may have the beads pressed so closely together that bead spreader tools will have to be used to properly space the beads for contact with the wheel during initial inflation.

If tires must be stacked, they should not be stacked for more than 6 months maximum. The maximum stacking height - 3 tires high if tire diameter is greater than 40 inches. - 4 tires high if tire diameter is less than 40 inches.

An exception can be made for tires stored in boxes. Stacks of boxed tires must be checked to ensure that the bottom boxes are not crushed.

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BKHK



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Well Ronniet,

I have failed maintenance companies who specialise in supplying replacement wheels and tyres to airlines for incorrect tyre storage when carrying out an aviation safety audit which I am qualified and experienced to carry out. I also provide advice to international military customers and advise them to store aviation wheels and tyres on racks, vertically whether together or "assembled" to protect from being dropped and cracked.

I base my comments on personal experience. What do you base yours on?

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mse



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BKHK wrote:
Well Ronniet,

I have failed maintenance companies who specialise in supplying replacement wheels and tyres to airlines for incorrect tyre storage when carrying out an aviation safety audit which I am qualified and experienced to carry out. I also provide advice to international military customers and advise them to store aviation wheels and tyres on racks, vertically whether together or "assembled" to protect from being dropped and cracked.

I base my comments on personal experience. What do you base yours on?


Whilst only a pilot myself - i fail to see what this has to do with CAR tyres!!

If the automotive industry did half what the aviation industry did during maintenance motoring would be 4 times as expensive 100 times safer and very very different animal Mike

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BKHK



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Tyres are tyres. There is a right way and a wrong way. I don't really don't give a monkeys how someone in the UK stores their spare Sport tyres, but the car is prone to wheel vibrations and doesn't like flat spots or distorted sidewalls. Correct storage will minimise these very annoying (and difficult to fix) potential issues and will close down one of LR's avenues of escape when they receive complaints about wheel vibes. Been there done that!

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mse



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My tyres cause vibrations when left on the car for 12hrs+ they soon go away.

Car Tyres are fine being stored either way...its really not that much of a big deal - i store some mud tyres 235/80/r16's i think, for 3 years without moving them, outside - with other tyres on top - covered - they then did 3yrs on a car without incident until i damaged one off road and replaced the set - my friend took the 3 and has got a further 2yrs out of the 2 and the 3rd is a spare.

Similar sets stores with no problem: Ford fiesta/Ford Focus/ FFRR/ Defender AT / Discovery AT's and Std/ Freelanders - only recently have i got rid of all of them.

Cover them, normal pressures either way of stacking - keep no more than 5 high and you will be fine. Mike

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