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MDP



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Bob I have just looked through your gallery " Holy Mother of God " has your car got measles? That's a serious amount of spots/dots youv'e got there Shocked

Even frpm the photographs I can tell things are not good Sad

Hope all goes well tomorrow

All the best

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United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Sport Supercharged Zermatt Silver

Thanks Martin.

It's going to take ages to peel all the dots off again............. Crying or Very sad RRS 4.2 S/C. Zermatt. Tints. Stormers. 150+ paint defects, wonkey bonnet, scratches, detached doorseal. suspension faults. To sum it up, a �60k pile of cr4p!

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The greatest effort often brings the greatest reward, Bob! Good luck! Thumbs Up 

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Best of luck!!

.. as for the gaps, don't forget it's a Land Rover and not a Lexus and there has never been and will never be such thing as a perfectly built Land Rover.

I reckon there must be thousands of RRS around with similar issues but the majority of people just do not really care. Maybe I should also go and have a closer look at mine? SOMETIMES YOU'RE THE BUG AND SOMETIMES YOU'RE THE WINDSHIELD

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United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Sport Supercharged Zermatt Silver

Roland wrote:
Best of luck!!

.. as for the gaps, don't forget it's a Land Rover and not a Lexus and there has never been and will never be such thing as a perfectly built Land Rover.


I've accepted that the panel gaps will never match an Audi's, but my whole bonnet is shifted to one side by about a quarter if an inch!

Bob. RRS 4.2 S/C. Zermatt. Tints. Stormers. 150+ paint defects, wonkey bonnet, scratches, detached doorseal. suspension faults. To sum it up, a �60k pile of cr4p!

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Is this comparable to LR's idea of design in what the term " The floating Roof" Wink 
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Bobs, having seen the pics, had a thought. Might be worth commissioning an independant "expert report" on the paintwork. Has that done for a court case against a botched Air Con fitment many moons ago on a Passat, just having the report will give U major ammo. That is what a judge in a case will look at, it will be from an expert so LR dealer or HQ can not BS they way through it. Good luck anyway.

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Right, latest update..................

Two guys came down from LR (although I didn't actually meet them) to see the car at the dealers. They thanked me for my time, and for pointing out the faults with the sticky dots (apparently, it was the talk of the dealership........I heard two of the girls saying that someone had stuck 155 dots on his car.........someone must have counted them!).

Apparently, the two LR guys found some faults that I'd missed (so why couldn't they find them before it left the factory?)

They admitted that the car was far below standard. They took photographs, and measured the thickness of the paint (it was up to spec). They said it was "dirt in the paint" that had caused most of the marks.

I'm told that LR want to make an "example" of the car (or something like that). They want to take it back to the factory (and take me round the paint processing plant etc.), and "prepare it" like they do the show cars. They want to polish out the pimples etc and completely replace the tailgate. They say that the car will be 110% when I get it back. They've invited me to the factory, and when they return it to me, they'll do a big "hand-over" at the factory, in a brightly lit room so that I can see that the car is perfect.

A year ago I would have jumped at the chance of going round the factory, but to be honest, now I don't really care. I just want the car that I paid for and to get on with my life again. I want to put all this behind me and enjoy the car. I don't want to send it back and have it messed about with.

I've thanked the service manager for his help, but told him that I still want to persue a replacement (I'm starting to feel awkward about this now).

He understands, and will speak to the DP tomorrow.

The story continues..................... RRS 4.2 S/C. Zermatt. Tints. Stormers. 150+ paint defects, wonkey bonnet, scratches, detached doorseal. suspension faults. To sum it up, a �60k pile of cr4p!

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Stick to your guns Bob and here's hoping you get a result.

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Again Bob, I know exactly how you feel. Porsche offered me a trip to their HQ in Reading to see the paint facilities, have the paint probs sorted, and inspect them in their viewing booth.

It didnt appeal to me either - who wants to see their new £50k car in a paintshop !?! Stick to your guns and seek a replacement. At least LR have now acknowledged how bad the car is.

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Make me think "what is the dirt in the paint"? If it is iron based (swarf from a badly fitted part in the paint manufacturers) that will start rusting given half a chance. Stick to your guns, even better upgrade to a D3! Laughing

Derek

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Derek wrote:
Make me think "what is the dirt in the paint"? If it is iron based (swarf from a badly fitted part in the paint manufacturers) that will start rusting given half a chance. Stick to your guns, even better upgrade to a D3! Laughing

Derek


I'm thinking that some of the pimples might be weld spatter because there looks to be dark bits in it, some may be badly mixed paint that's come out lumpy. I agree that "polishing" might initially make the car look o.k., but if it is metal, it would start rusting once the protective coating is removed.

Tonser's hit the nail on the head...........I don't want to see my £50k (£60k?) car in a paintshop. In fact I wouldn't want to see a new £10k car in the paintshop!!! RRS 4.2 S/C. Zermatt. Tints. Stormers. 150+ paint defects, wonkey bonnet, scratches, detached doorseal. suspension faults. To sum it up, a �60k pile of cr4p!

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Very Annoyed wrote:
Derek you did a typo there - you meant to say downgrade! Wink


Had me worried there as I'm good at trypos, but checked. Definitely meant UPGRADE! Ner Ner

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Cliff H wrote:
Really if you have had legal advice Bob that says you are well within your rights to regect the car then stick to your guns and go for it.


I've been intrigued and concerned about this whole paint defect thread as I wait for delivery of my own RRS. So I asked our fleet manager for his advice. He explained that the car should be inspected for paint defects BEFORE you sign for delivery and rejected if any are found. To do so after you have signed for delivery dramatically diminishes your legal rights. You have, after all, taken delivery (and presumably paid for) something you had inspected and accepted. The paintwork cannot then be claimed as a hidden fault since its condition was clearly apparent. Therefore, I think the legal advice given is probably weak. You would have to prove that the degradation of the paint occured after delivery (and therefore was a hidden fault of the paint) but would not get anywhere otherwise as, by taking delivery of the car, you have accepted it's condition.

So, I'm going to be very careful...but I do not believe this bodes well for Bobs_buggy. 2006 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE, Java/Ebony/Cherry, Privacy, Sunroof, PTI, Premium Sound, SatNav, Cold Climate, Tow kit, CarStyle coded grill and vents, Tasmods, Stormers, JE Exhaust, Autobiography badge

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