I am shortly leaving for a trip to Italy and need to transport a very long piece of furniture. I own my RRS for a bit more than year but til now there has never been a need to fully fold down the rear seats.

My first try was a bit of a struggle but after having consulted the manual (first move the front seats forward before folding the rear benches and then move the front seat back again) I have managed to have the rear seats out of the way. So I get back into the drivers seat, hit the memory button but would you believe, the seat gets stuck about half way back. The simple reason is that the folded bench does limit the range of the movement of the front seat. Obviously for shorter guys this is not an issue but for us tall lads it's a disaster. I am 6"3 and there's simply no way for me to find a half acceptable seating position with the rear seats down... How on earth does LR think should I drive for six/seven hours squeezed in the seat like a sardine.

This is a really bad joke by LR's designers or better call it a disaster. Mind you this is actually the first time ever I am having second thoughts about the car. SOMETIMES YOU'RE THE BUG AND SOMETIMES YOU'RE THE WINDSHIELD

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Roland, I'm sure life presents many challenges for you taller fellas, as indeed the same for shorter men and ladies, I suppose in vidication to the car manufacturer's, they only have limited tolerances with which to work to and reluctantly forced to focus primarlly on Mr and Mrs Average? To cater for extremes would compromise design and, in reality, probably prove to be a practicable impossibility, I suspect?

Having said that, 6' 3" is hardly a giant these days and you'd have though a big rugid 4x4 would've been a bit more accommodating! Just dont swop it for a smart car!  MY12 SDV6 HSE Sumatra/Ebony/Piano/Sidesteps/Privacy/Overfinch Olympus/JLR DRLs

Yes, I am a short 6'1" and also find the driving position quite uncomfortable when the seat behind mine is folded down. It's bearable for short hops, but I couldn't take long trips that way, my legs would definitely cramp up. Whenever I have long objects to haul back there, I always hope I can get away by just knocking down the rear seatback section behind the passenger seat. Unfortunately for LH drive cars, that only clears 1/3 of the rear seat.

Another problem I have with the rear seats: Have you tried raising (or lowering) those three headrests? If you haven't done it in a while, you better eat your Wheaties. 

umbertob wrote:

Unfortunately for LH drive cars, that only clears 1/3 of the rear seat.

..exactly!

it's really a shame the Disco looks so ugly (... sorry you guys from the other forum). SOMETIMES YOU'RE THE BUG AND SOMETIMES YOU'RE THE WINDSHIELD

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umbertob wrote:

Yes, I am a short 6'1" and also find the driving position quite uncomfortable when the seat behind mine is folded down. It's bearable for short hops, but I couldn't take long trips that way, my legs would definitely cramp up. Whenever I have long objects to haul back there, I always hope I can get away by just knocking down the rear seatback section behind the passenger seat. Unfortunately for LH drive cars, that only clears 1/3 of the rear seat.

Another problem I have with the rear seats: Have you tried raising (or lowering) those three headrests? If you haven't done it in a while, you better eat your Wheaties.

I use them for a workout Umbertob.., but only after three shredded wheat!!!  MY12 SDV6 HSE Sumatra/Ebony/Piano/Sidesteps/Privacy/Overfinch Olympus/JLR DRLs

Beeing 194 cm myself I have noticed same problem. Haven't tried, but maybe removing the headrest on the backseat before folding would provide more space for the front seat to slide backwords. 2010 RRS TDV6 3,0, Bali Blue/Tan/Anigre/Dynamic Pack/Logic7/Keyless entry/Paddle

Roland wrote:

umbertob wrote:

Unfortunately for LH drive cars, that only clears 1/3 of the rear seat.

..exactly!

it's really a shame the Disco looks so ugly (... sorry you guys from the other forum).

I fully agree Roland, it's the inbred agricultural cousin, and, with the FFRR looking like it's eaten all the pies, there's only one good-looking and sexy LR to buy..., the RRSport!!!  MY12 SDV6 HSE Sumatra/Ebony/Piano/Sidesteps/Privacy/Overfinch Olympus/JLR DRLs

Brian Mason wrote:

I fully agree Roland, it's the inbred agricultural cousin, and, with the FFRR looking like it's eaten all the pies, there's only one good-looking and sexy LR to buy..., the RRSport!!!

How true  some of my Previous cars
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RRS TDV8 HSE silver
FFRR Vogue black
Disco3 HSE silver
RRS 2.7 HSE silver
RRS 3.0 HSE BALTI BLUE
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AC Cobra
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Its not the best design, when you cant put the seats right the way back, im 6'5" i bought some furniture and dropped the rear seats in the sport, my drivers seat wouldnt go back all the way either, but i could recline the seat back a little which did make driving a bit easier, but i wouldnt have liked to drive a very long distance.

Out of all the cars ive owned, the cars that have seats that drop down never give enough room for the drivers seat to go all the way back, not just L/R some of my Previous cars
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P38 Range Rover Autobiography
RRS 2.7 HSE Silver
RRS TDV8 HSE silver
FFRR Vogue black
Disco3 HSE silver
RRS 2.7 HSE silver
RRS 3.0 HSE BALTI BLUE
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current vehicles
RRS 3.0 L494 Autobiography
Audi R8 V10 Spyder
AC Cobra
Landrover Defender 90
Landrover Defender 110
Suzuki Jimney

That's very true Envoy. After all, these are cars, and, if you want move furniture, get a furniture van. If they were intended to ferry goods about, they wouldn't look good and who wants to buy a transit van? Hope that makes sense? If it does, please tell me what the hell I've just said! Many Thanks!  MY12 SDV6 HSE Sumatra/Ebony/Piano/Sidesteps/Privacy/Overfinch Olympus/JLR DRLs

i suppose it a compromise in design, You cant please all the people all the time

BTW that didnt make any sense  some of my Previous cars
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P38 Range Rover Autobiography
RRS 2.7 HSE Silver
RRS TDV8 HSE silver
FFRR Vogue black
Disco3 HSE silver
RRS 2.7 HSE silver
RRS 3.0 HSE BALTI BLUE
______________________________
current vehicles
RRS 3.0 L494 Autobiography
Audi R8 V10 Spyder
AC Cobra
Landrover Defender 90
Landrover Defender 110
Suzuki Jimney

ENVOY wrote:

BTW that didnt make any sense

I thought not!!!  MY12 SDV6 HSE Sumatra/Ebony/Piano/Sidesteps/Privacy/Overfinch Olympus/JLR DRLs

I understood you Brian

in my case I've got the RRS and a Transit

I am surprise..Being myself 1m94 (6.36 I think..) I manage to have my usual driving position with no problem while the rear seat was folded... Range Rover Vogue ‘17 TDV6

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