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Lindab



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Things to tell your insurance company

Article in Auto Express. Some things you never think about i.e. stickers, decals, PPF
https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/107...r-revealed

Post #589821 Mon Nov 04 2019 10:05am
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aaronjb



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Ah, further proof that insurance companies (underwriters, at least) are slimy, snivelling little <word> who will do anything to get out of paying out..

I mean:
"Adam Clarke, Ageas insurance’s chief underwriting officer explains: “Optional extras are actually modifications – so to fully cover your vehicle make sure you declare these features. When you buy a second-hand vehicle, it’s a great opportunity to ask the seller for information about the optional extras they’ve fitted so you can let your insurer know.” "

In other words, probably 90% of all second hand vehicles are effectively uninsured, if that's the standard they are setting - because once a car is more than about 5 years old, who is going to know what was an optional extra and what was standard fit? Very few second hand dealers, that's for sure. 2014 BMW 530d Touring, 2006 BMW 650i, 2018 Mini Cooper S

Post #589823 Mon Nov 04 2019 10:40am
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Eaters



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United Kingdom 2008 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Zermatt Silver

Very interesting. I think there needs to be some give and take here and perhaps it should be incumbent on the insurer to justify any increase in premium based upon proven history of increased risk resulting from the modification - and not just an excuse to squeeze more premium out of the policy holder.

I had to tell my insurer (Aviva) that I had added side steps as they classified that as a mod. But there was no extra premium involved. The question is do I need to tell them about my National Trust sticker (which I need to display in order to park in their car parks), and the RNLI badge?? And what if I have a council parking permit or such like?? Robin
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Post #589824 Mon Nov 04 2019 10:42am
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Lindab



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Looks like you have to tell them everything going by that. Non OEM tyres, brake pads, exhaust, wipers. Its getting ridiculous if they are getting to the stage of stickers Rolling with laughter Don't leave a bus ticket lying on the dash Embarassed
Hardly any car will be insured
Andy, hope you told them about your new body panels Whistle

Post #589831 Mon Nov 04 2019 12:40pm
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What my rear bumper that the thieves fitted when they took it.? Rolling with laughter Andy.
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Post #589833 Mon Nov 04 2019 12:45pm
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Lindab



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Glad I fitted OEM wipers last week or the premiums may have doubled Censored

Post #589834 Mon Nov 04 2019 12:54pm
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United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Cairns Blue

I programmed that satnav, at one stage it would have been blank Mr. Green 2006 2.7 TDV6 HSE in Cairns Blue.

Post #589840 Mon Nov 04 2019 3:27pm
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United Kingdom 2010 Range Rover Sport 3.0 TDV6 HSE Zermatt Silver

The reply "to the best of my knowledge, it's exactly as it left the factory and I have not modified it in any way" should, in any reasonable world put the ball firmly back in their court. It smacks of double standards if they want to charge extra on the premium for items properly (and legal and safely) installed by the manufacturer, and yet in the event of a claim they will say "ah yes, but that doesn't increase the value of the car".
They can't have it both ways. Did I really just say that about insurance companies?
Is the insurance ombudsman a toothless tiger, or will they do something about this?

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you can of course take it the other way - I have with my disco. List out every modification in great detail and then pass it on to the underwriter via the broker. It ran to 4 pages of A4 and I think they just gave up reading and said yes after line 6

My policy just says "various" under the modifications tab 2012 SDV6 HSE (technically its hers)
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Post #589848 Mon Nov 04 2019 6:04pm
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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Stornoway Grey

I sent NFU a picture of my car showing winch/towbar and that was fine.

Whereas

My ex-Police XC70 is a nightmare to insure. My current insurers charged me an extra £26 to when I disclosed the differences over a standard XC70 D5 SE but then whacked £100 on the renewal. Ringing around, as soon as I started talking modifications, I was either refused a quote or they went silly money. Did eventually get it matched by a specialist who had previously quoted double after I spoke on a forum to their rep. I even went to performance car specialists who didn't want to know or cheaply enough.

My point was that it is a factory supplied car to the police, so was safely modified. All the parts are standard Volvo parts, so not expensive to replace. All the modifications compliment each other. I even sent a build list from Volvo to some.

Anyway, end result is 3x what online marketplaces offer Sad

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having a big football club sticker in your back window is asking for trouble if you visit a rival town

having a i love Greta Thumburger sticker is also not the same but could cause issues, likewise if you was pro Boris or Corbin

Post #589915 Tue Nov 05 2019 2:45pm
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Eaters



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United Kingdom 2008 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Zermatt Silver

You would think that, in this day and age, we could have stickers that changed allegiance depending upon location.

No, I've probably over thought this now! Robin
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Post #589917 Tue Nov 05 2019 3:24pm
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There are certainly LED matrix signs you can hang in the window that you can control from your phone .. available from your favourite Chinese tat retailer Laughing 2014 BMW 530d Touring, 2006 BMW 650i, 2018 Mini Cooper S

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