So now it isn’t just the V6 or the Ingenium 4’s that are prone to DPF issues...__ 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
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Well I have some news. Turns out DPF is fine. Issue was oil leaking to the turbo actuator which in turn was causing electrical faults that may not relate to the issue.The fix is a new pipe with a drain so oil cannot enter the actuator.Bad news is this pipe isn't in stock anywhere and my car may be off the road for months? The tech was great in getting back and telling me what the issue was he felt bad re the parts but said they must replace as per LR specs so all parts must be in before they start. M16 SVD8 ,4.4 HSE with a few extras, Sold R50 , Wife SQ5 , BMW R1200GSW.

A friend of mine with an Evoque has just had his DPF replaced.
It had actually burst, with a split down the side. He didn't have any notification on the dash that he had an issue, he said he could just smell a hot burning odour!
Car is about 2 years old and DPF was replaced under warranty.
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I have a 65 plate 3.0 sdv6 hse.

I am so upset by this Fuel in Oil problem. Bought in June 18 second hand with 27k on clock. Had a service at purchase. 6000 miles later--needed oil change due to dilution. Told it might happen again. I monitored mileage to next service and it did jump about, from 3850 one week, to needing an oil change (0 miles) a week later!
I asked if the history showed previous early oil changes--they said it didn't. I find that hard to believe. they said it was driving style too. I said I do long commutes and about 25000 miles per year.

In again today after another 6000 miles for oil change for same reason.

Its been great in every other way, (after I upgraded the terrible stock audio). However, a high end vehicle should not require this oil change and who knows what the engine will be like in 5 years time.

By the looks of it there is little we can do apart from complain? I've considered exchanging for a different make but of course would lose at least £5-10k on any trade in.

If there is a lawyer out there--what about a class action? The vehicle is not fit for purpose and does not perform as intended.

Of course they say it didn't. They only put regular service's onto their system as doing otherwise would leave an audit trail and an admission there is a design fault with the engine.

Antmac wrote:

I have a 65 plate 3.0 sdv6 hse.

I am so upset by this Fuel in Oil problem. Bought in June 18 second hand with 27k on clock. Had a service at purchase. 6000 miles later--needed oil change due to dilution. Told it might happen again. I monitored mileage to next service and it did jump about, from 3850 one week, to needing an oil change (0 miles) a week later!
I asked if the history showed previous early oil changes--they said it didn't. I find that hard to believe. they said it was driving style too. I said I do long commutes and about 25000 miles per year.

In again today after another 6000 miles for oil change for same reason.

Its been great in every other way, (after I upgraded the terrible stock audio). However, a high end vehicle should not require this oil change and who knows what the engine will be like in 5 years time.

By the looks of it there is little we can do apart from complain? I've considered exchanging for a different make but of course would lose at least £5-10k on any trade in.

If there is a lawyer out there--what about a class action? The vehicle is not fit for purpose and does not perform as intended.

Hi Antmac,

Thank you for your post.

I am sorry to learn of this.

Please DM me with your contact, vehicle and retailer details for me to assist further.

Thanks,

Chand - Land Rover UK

Antmac wrote:

I have a 65 plate 3.0 sdv6 hse.

I am so upset by this Fuel in Oil problem. Bought in June 18 second hand with 27k on clock. Had a service at purchase. 6000 miles later--needed oil change due to dilution. Told it might happen again. I monitored mileage to next service and it did jump about, from 3850 one week, to needing an oil change (0 miles) a week later!
I asked if the history showed previous early oil changes--they said it didn't. I find that hard to believe. they said it was driving style too. I said I do long commutes and about 25000 miles per year.

In again today after another 6000 miles for oil change for same reason.

Its been great in every other way, (after I upgraded the terrible stock audio). However, a high end vehicle should not require this oil change and who knows what the engine will be like in 5 years time.

By the looks of it there is little we can do apart from complain? I've considered exchanging for a different make but of course would lose at least £5-10k on any trade in.

If there is a lawyer out there--what about a class action? The vehicle is not fit for purpose and does not perform as intended.

Visited Stratstone Aylesbury yesterday... hadn’t been back since sept 2018... noticed significant improvements from an interaction perspective.... new service manager seems to be making good progress.

Returned due to car saying it needed a service.. actually due May 2019.

Fixed within an hour.. apparently original fix for fuel dilution and service indictaor issue hadn’t been applied correctly.

Will continue to monitor...

Prashan MY16, 3.0D HSE Dynamic, Barola Black, TV, Rear Entertainment, Opening Pan Roof, Meridian

Quote:

Visited Stratstone Aylesbury yesterday... hadn’t been back since sept 2018... noticed significant improvements from an interaction perspective.... new service manager seems to be making good progress.

Returned due to car saying it needed a service.. actually due May 2019.

Fixed within an hour.. apparently original fix for fuel dilution and service indictaor issue hadn’t been applied correctly.

Will continue to monitor...

Prashan

Did they check for oil dilution?
I had exactly the same scenario, and service not due until March, but oil was 6% diluted so they did an oil change as a ‘good will’ which we are untitled to in between every service up to 50k miles apparently 2016 Fuji White Autobiography SDV6 - Fully loaded with almost every extra! ðŸ˜�

Remember that oil dilution percentage is just a calculation, it could be much higher or much lower.

You need to send it off for testing if you want to know the real figure. Over on the Disc05 forum several have done this and results varied, quite a few had very little oil dilution. 2023 P440e SE Dynamic on order -cancelled

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Coedlan wrote:

Quote:

Visited Stratstone Aylesbury yesterday... hadn’t been back since sept 2018... noticed significant improvements from an interaction perspective.... new service manager seems to be making good progress.

Returned due to car saying it needed a service.. actually due May 2019.

Fixed within an hour.. apparently original fix for fuel dilution and service indictaor issue hadn’t been applied correctly.

Will continue to monitor...

Prashan

Does this mean that the “fix� has simply relaxed the criteria for an oil dilution related oil change? ie increased the risk?

A quick update.
Picked car up after oil service and checked indicator. Which frustratingly advised 4050 to next oil service. I walked straight back in and asked how this was possible, remaining calm at all times😫.
They advised it had now returned to the 16000 mile service interval and would need another oil service in 4000 miles regardless.
So that will mean in 16000 miles 4 oil changes. One at 27k, one at 33k, one at 39k and the next one at 43 k.
They did do a software upgrade but didn’t advise what it did.
I have raised a warranty issue with LR.
They will get back to me next week apparently.
Will update.

So mine went from service now to 10k Miles... looks like it takes them a few attempts before they can fix it. Keep us posted and I’ll monitor mine too MY16, 3.0D HSE Dynamic, Barola Black, TV, Rear Entertainment, Opening Pan Roof, Meridian

Just read this announcement from Toyota Australia who have also had DPF and oil dilution issues.
I think LR need to do this as well.
Apparently you can press the button for a regen when you know you are going for a longer trip.
See quote below:

"Toyota will shortly announce the addition of a diesel particular filter (DPF) regeneration switch for the Landcruiser Prado and HiLux, as part of a rolling technical change on both models.
CarAdvice can exclusively reveal the change, which comes after a surge in complaints about particulate filter issues from Prado and HiLux owners who primarily drive short distances. Toyota is yet to provide comment regarding the complaints, or provide a specific reason for the change.
A diesel particulate filter works by catching harmful diesel particles, storing them and then burning them off at high temperatures as the filter becomes full.This process requires high exhaust temperatures and can only be actioned when the vehicle is at operating temperature. If a vehicle is primarily driven in and around the city, with limited long-duration driving, the fliter can become clogged, which ultimately leads to a full replacement of the unit being required"


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