It's such a shame this thread had to be moved...it's been the most interesting thread on here since I joined the forums....it will probably fizzle out now

It was in the wrong section. While the topic is interesting (to me at least), Velar isn't L494. The mod was already waiting to see if a Velar specific sub-section was on its way so it could be moved there instead of the general off-topic "all other cars". Since that wasn't happening, it was moved where it is now. We will continue posting in it which should keep it in the recently updated topics list for all those who are interested but without incorrectly giving the impression that it was about L494. Current: Volvo XC90 T8 Inscription Pro PHEV with some optionals on top
Gone: MY16 RRS2 3.0 SDV6 Autobiography Dynamic, Carpathian Grey & Santorini Black Sliding Pano/Ebony & Ivory 2 Tone
Gone: MY13 RRS 3.0 SDV6 HSE Black Edition, Orkney Grey/Ivory
Gone: MY09 RRS 2.7 TDV6 HSE, Santorini Black/Almond

So is crocs the first person here to get a order in?













i know its RRSman.
RRS what do you think about the petrol 380? Will the diesel still be the one to have with all this negativity going on about it? SVR 2018 in Santorini Black.

Another thing i noticed was that the Velar seems to have small Brakes where as the RRS ABDynamic has a nice set of Brembos at 380 front vs single calliper 350 front velar.  SVR 2018 in Santorini Black.

380 brakes are an extra cost option on some models.

I have slot 1 at the same dealership as RRSMan but I think that Velar is not for me. No transfer case/ low range gears way too expensive for what was supposed to be a car that slots in between Evoque and RRS, but really is an RRS Fastback.
I will reconsider my options and while I don't need all the seats/space of a D5 I can get a 1st Ed D5 with a deployable tow hook and a proper sized engine for <£70k - it has more toys than I want but hey I couldn't afford what I would like in an RRS either so might as well go for the next best thing. Also L494 RRS has no winch figment available but D5 does.............. and I need that if I am to also reduce from two very capable cars at the moment to one very capable vehicle (unless LR comes along very soon with the Defender replacement when I might go that route in a SWB version). 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - soon to be replaced
2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

Last edited by Tim in Scotland on Sun Mar 05 2017 2:46pm. Edited 1 time in total

Why not just keep the RRS? It's only 2 years old!

What will you do with your RRV order, cancel or keep it and sell when it's delivered (assuming you don't proceed to purchase and keep it)?

Are ok another option i must have not seen then. Also Tim yet another option to make it the same spec as The RRS and getting more and more expensive.
When the AB version of this arrives it will definitely cost more than the Sport AB that we have now.

Is the Brake option Brembo? SVR 2018 in Santorini Black.

Can you sell a slot, like runway take-off slots? If so, I hereby offer Tim a Bacon Buttie at the first Scottish Green Road Club meet that we both attend for his.

I'll then thrash it round a few meets and sell it for a profit.

BTW, I thought I'd lost this thread. Who's fault was that? Oops! Mine! Sorry!

Robert

Yes both Tim and I have slots one and two at the same dealers. I am picking up my MY17 RRS next week from them too. The Velar is not due to be delivered until at least August so I'll enjoy the AB for 6 months and then decide if I get the Velar or not. I went for the 3.0d HSE Dynamic and my car is spec'd to £78k. Played on the configurator all weekend and the story is the same as an RRS in terms of residual values on finance. The higher specs have higher retained value so make more sense if one is financing as the monthly payments are just a tad bit higher than a much lower spec car (engine or model line or spec).

IMHO I can't see this go wrong as all the press are raving about the Velar and if you read the comments from people on social media posts the response to the Velar has been fantastic and people are loving it.

It's expensive for sure but then if you compare a highly spec'd Porsche Macan price to a Cayenne it's a similar story as both car's prices over lap once you begin to spec a Macan up.

You can't sell your slot and you are asked to sign a disclaimer which forbids you selling the car within the first 6 months...not sure what happens if one does not like it or goes bankrupt after delivery lol!

I don't think the launch edition makes sense though hence why not going for that...rather have a spec I want rather than everything thrown in at me!

The residuals on the petrol are much lower meaning much higher monthlys so I'm out on that front but it should be interesting...however with the 306BHP engine from the RRS I think this Velar will be great.

Sounds great RRSman. Fully agree about the first Edition.
Is this with James at Lookers?
post your spec when you can.
Whats your thought on these Laser lights?, a high price option i feel. SVR 2018 in Santorini Black.

You cannot buy and sell slots, it's just I got there about 2 minutes before RRSMan and put down an expression of interest deposit of £500 that is fully refundable or I can use it to put on another car. I am happy to keep the RRS, I run 2 cars and want to reduce to one, RRS is very capable on and off road. I have plenty of time to cogitate over the choice of next car - D5 is also in the running as a winch can be fitted to that but not to L494 RRS, and while one isn't strictly necessary for the offroad stuff I do now it is a very useful piece of kit to have. My Defender's winch challenge type drives are over now but it is still getting plenty of use on Green Road Training days pulling folks out of sticky bogs they have ventured into and giving winch training lessons and on Green road runs we still get the odd driver that has a magnetic attraction to ditches and ending up with their D4 or FFRR in the situation where no amount of terrain response assistance will get it out. You would also be amazed how many owners of powerful front wheel drive cars get stuck at the local beach trying to pull a way too heavy speed boat out of the water and forget that weight transfers off the front wheels when you put a heavy load on the back.............. and I get a call from the rangers on the beach asking if I can come and help recover a boat on a trailer from the water because the owner cannot drive far enough in to recover it without drowning the back of the car or the front ends up on weed and slime with no grip. I would feel naked in a car without a winch now  2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - soon to be replaced
2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

Last edited by Tim in Scotland on Sun Mar 05 2017 2:44pm. Edited 1 time in total

From reading you posts Tim i tell you now the Velar is not for you, a new Defender might be though.  SVR 2018 in Santorini Black.

I think I might have passed away before Land Rover finally (if ever) gets round to launching a Defender replacement - they are winding us up saying they are developing a replacement for it to stop people defecting to Land Cruisers and cheap Japanese pickup trucks................ they only sold 20,000 a year at the peak of sales, that doesn't justify building a new one these days unfortunately. It is the longest I have ever kept a car, it is 21 this year and I bought when it was 6 years old and had 54000 miles on the clock, it now has 87000 miles on it so it doesn't work hard. It also has never failed me in all those years, even when I ran it for the best part of 100 miles with no oil in the transfer box............. the transfer box kept going until I arrived at the indies who look after it for me but I had by then done terminal damage to it so a new box was required. It's never failed to start and has given years of really quite cheap entertainment because it costs very little relative to it's newer stable mates to service and repair. New transfer box was £650 fitted (it was new not a recon job too) 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - soon to be replaced
2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

TDV8HST wrote:

Sounds great RRSman. Fully agree about the first Edition.
Is this with James at Lookers?
post your spec when you can.
Whats your thought on these Laser lights?, a high price option i feel.

Yes, it is with James at Lookers West London

The laser lights only work on high beam so IMHO it's a waste of money as the normal LED/Xenon High Beam seems good enough for me. It's not something I would spec unless circa £300.

My Optional Extras Spec is as follows:

HSE D300 3.0 litre V6 300PS Twin Turbocharged Diesel
Fuji White
22" Style 9007 Wheels (same as on all adverts) but these are bloody expensive so if someone can confirm RRS/FFRR wheels fit the Velar I will delete this option an buy a set off ebay!
Black Contrast Roof
Sliding Pan Roof
Privacy Glass
R-Dynamic Black Pack
Eclipse/Ebony Interior - this is what made me upgrade to the Highest Spec - this leather is brilliant (Gone with a dark blue leather that IMHO looks classy as !)
20 Way seats with Cooling and Heated Front and Heated Rear
Heated Steering Wheel
Meridian Upgraded Sound
Spare Wheel
Configurable Dynamics (I think this may be an error as this should be standard on this model)
Surround Camera System
Ambient Mood Lighting

Superb!
That Blue really does look special and goes really well with Fuji .

You have confirmed my thoughts on the lights as well.

I,m not in the uk right now so its good to get some opinions from you as you have seen the car so much appreciated.

I will definitely wait for the AB to arrive so i have plenty of time any way.
I just hope the boot is as big as my sport now as my two dogs won't be happy! SVR 2018 in Santorini Black.