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the diver



Member Since: 03 Aug 2011
Location: ayr,Scotland
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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Stornoway Grey
I REQURE A NEW ENGINE

HI help please my 2.7 tdv6 stopped on monday, it was uplifted to my local dealer in scotland the cam belt tensioner was the fault,LR want £9,200 for a new engine fitted. does anyone know of relieable companies in scotland or else where who are cheaper.
i have noticed some on ebay new engine fitted for £3500 .can anyone help please.

Post #377756 Thu Mar 21 2013 7:26pm
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Danny Byrne



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Scotland 2005 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Zambezi Silver

Sorry to hear that diver! Big Cry How many is that now on the forum? Mines is booked in on the 17th to get the belts/service done? Praying it holds on till then!! With regards to the tensioner itself, is that something that can be replaced/serviced? Or is it part of the bloak that is failing? Scary times!!! Here - Range Rover Sport MY05 HSE (Changes coming)
Here - Skoda Fabia Monte Carlo MY12 (60+ mpg)

Gone - Long list of unsuitable cars for me a wife and two kids including Impreza's and VXR's

Post #377758 Thu Mar 21 2013 7:47pm
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Disco_Mikey



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United Kingdom 2010 Range Rover Sport Supercharged HSE Santorini Black

I am in exactly the same position as you. Need to find me a TDV6 engine too.

My only issue with a "re-conditioned" engine is that JLR, and PSA (who build the engine) have not released any bottom end parts for this engine. You cannot buy pistons, or rings, or big end or main bearings...
SO how can they be re-conditioned? Confused

There was a thread on D3 about a company called Global Engines: http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic80614.h...al+engines

Not sure what to do, but I do know a 2.7 TDV6 from a D4 is around half the price of a 2.7 TDV6 from a D3... Currently trying to find out what the actual differences are. Would rather buy a genuine LR recon unit, as they can at least get the parts themselves...

Danny Byrne wrote:
With regards to the tensioner itself, is that something that can be replaced/serviced? Or is it part of the bloak that is failing? Scary times!!!


The tensioner is included in the cambelt kit Thumbs Up

However, on the 07/08MY's, they modified the oil pump casing, that the tensioner bolts onto. It is this casing that fails, causing the tensioner to fall off the engine, resulting in 1 Censored engine... The oil pump was modified again, and beefed up on 09MY's Whistle
The EU3 (05/06MY's) do not seem to suffer from this problem.

Post #377769 Thu Mar 21 2013 9:30pm
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the diver



Member Since: 03 Aug 2011
Location: ayr,Scotland
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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Stornoway Grey

thank you very much for all your info i am hoping to just get a recon engine and then sell my vehicle on.however i have spoken to a chap at porschetechltd on ebay he seems to know what hes talking about and gives a 2 year warranty with the recon engine £3400 supplied and fitted.

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Martin
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Post #377774 Thu Mar 21 2013 10:24pm
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the diver



Member Since: 03 Aug 2011
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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Stornoway Grey

yes i have martin

Post #377775 Thu Mar 21 2013 10:28pm
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Bodsy
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Diver, your problem is an increasingly common problem. How many miles have you done? I assume the cam belt tentisoner broke from the oil pump casing, in which case I have very specific experience of this. You should take it up with LR as a catastrophic failure of the oil pump and get them to supply a new engine. I did!

Let me know if it looked anything like this.....

http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic57636.h...p;start=30 Bodsys Brake Bible
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Post #377777 Fri Mar 22 2013 12:46am
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muddywheels
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This is a scandal - I think everyone who has had a ceased engine needs to get together and start pressuring Lr Evil or Very Mad

Individually you are easy to fob off but as a group you have more power Bow down

Taking into account mileage and fsh this is inexcusable and reminiscent of the watchdog TD5 story - no excuse Banging Head Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

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Endjin



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This may well fall under the Sale of Goods Act. Under this legislation you have 6 years (5 in scotland) to place a claim. Therefore if your car has failed within this period due to a design flaw (which this clearly is) or poor workmanship then you have a case to claim against the retailer that sold you the car. I'm not sure how or if it applies against LR themselves as by "retailer" I assume it means the dealer although they may qualify as an "agent" of LR, you'd have to look into this yourself, perhaps a word with trading standards or your local C.A.B. would help. 2013 Discovery HSE Luxury - 3.0 SDV6 - Santorini Black
2013 Evoque 5 Door Pure Tech SD4 - Orkney Grey with Panoramic Roof (Mrs E's new baby)

GONE - RRS - 3.0 TDV6 HSE - Santorini (2010)
GONE - RRS - 2.7 TDV6 HSE - Java Black (2007)
GONE - Porsche Boxster S - 3.2 - Black

Post #377812 Fri Mar 22 2013 11:42am
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the diver



Member Since: 03 Aug 2011
Location: ayr,Scotland
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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Stornoway Grey

Thank you all very much for your detailed and very interesting replies,today i spoke with the dealer,they have spoken to LR and the dealer has sent LR all the relevant info,i think they refered to it as a 'THREAD' my range rover sport hse is a 2007 73,000 miles with a full landrover service, my previous disco 3 2006 finished with 100k miles on the clock and started and performed as if it just came out the wrapper. did LR change the design of the engine ?
The dealer has informed me that I should know the out come on Monday,

Post #377876 Fri Mar 22 2013 8:16pm
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5c0tty



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United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Zambezi Silver

Hi Diver

what was the issue with your engine?

scotty

Post #378226 Mon Mar 25 2013 4:19pm
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Danny Byrne



Member Since: 26 Feb 2012
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Scotland 2005 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Zambezi Silver

As diver says! Great replies, bodsy and Mikey particularly with regards to technical/specs etc really know your stuff!! Then other lads with legal advice!! This forum is great for info such as supplied above!! Thumbs Up Thumbs Up

It's just a shame we don't get to talk about aesthetic modifications and detailing more often! Big Cry Here - Range Rover Sport MY05 HSE (Changes coming)
Here - Skoda Fabia Monte Carlo MY12 (60+ mpg)

Gone - Long list of unsuitable cars for me a wife and two kids including Impreza's and VXR's

Post #378230 Mon Mar 25 2013 4:40pm
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the diver



Member Since: 03 Aug 2011
Location: ayr,Scotland
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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Stornoway Grey

Hi every one, as you are all aware my cam belt tensioner had broken resulting in one defunked engine.
I cannot stress enough my appreciation to all of you for such accurate and prompt information. With this information, I was able to challenge my LR dealer 'in a polite manner’. The dealer has now spoken to LR. I was informed this morning by my LR dealer, that LR will pay 100% of the cost to fit a new engine. My only costs are the labour time to diagnose the problem £300.

Thanks to my dealer and LR
This wonderful site along with its sister Disco3 is what the web was created for, to give accurate and up to date information-
Martin thank you for a wonderful site and your kind accurate advice, bodsy mechanical genius keep up the great work.
Am one happy Diver
thank you

Post #378249 Mon Mar 25 2013 7:07pm
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rigsby



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What a great outcome, makes a change to hear of a happy ending, and what a great forum eh Bow down Bow down MY16 AUTOBIOGRAPHY Indus silver with some toys

2012 3.0 SDV6 Luxury gone, but a great motor

Post #378251 Mon Mar 25 2013 7:24pm
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muddywheels
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This is great news Thumbs Up Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

Post #378252 Mon Mar 25 2013 7:49pm
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