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Beancounter_74



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awd man wrote:
Rolling with laughter


You missed my sarcasm Beancounter

Maybe I should have put Rolling Eyes after my last post but I don't like to patronise Wink


awd man - don't worry I got the sarcasm Smile

Didn't mean you with the rolly eyes Embarassed , more the insurance companies. ON THE WAY: BMW F21 M140i
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Post #320772 Fri Nov 11 2011 11:43am
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Beancounter_74



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awd man wrote:
*big hug*

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Right back at ya Thumbs Up ....or did I mean Rolling Eyes ....only kidding mate, Embarassed all good Mr. Green

I do like these smilies.... Cool ON THE WAY: BMW F21 M140i
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Post #320773 Fri Nov 11 2011 11:45am
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Rudskibaliblu



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awd man wrote:
Like the alloys Rud Thumbs Up

They Tboner's old ones?


Yes but I've put my diamond turned 20s back on for winter with some chunky Leon coopers.

I've informed the insurance company about my 22s they charged me £25 quid for it and said that the wheels wouldn't be insured Question do I now need to tell them I've gone back to my 20s and get stung again Evil or Very Mad Now gone Orkney grey SDV6 HSE with body style kit contrast stitch ebony leather, privacy, black piano, 22" Lowenharts for summer, 20" with Leon LTZ for winter.
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Post #320783 Fri Nov 11 2011 12:42pm
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awd man



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Robbing Censored 's all of them

Mine are the same... alloys are not covered for damage/theft RRS gone
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Post #320785 Fri Nov 11 2011 12:49pm
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Jmac



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Re: Winter Wheels

DrRick wrote:
So, having taken on a new car with a replacement set of 20" MY10 wheels with brand new Conti tyres, I'm loathed to chuck them but am being niggled by the thought of lack of capability in the winter.

Two options: swap out the tyres for 20" AT tyres and keep the Contis for the summer, or spend more and get a set of 19" wheels and put some ATs on them and I can just swp when I'm ready.

Choices over rubber, I've narrowed it to either:

A set of Cooper Zeon LTZ 275-45-R20:



or,

A set of General Grabber AT 275-40-R20:


But for the 19's, I'm limited to:

A set of A set of General Grabber AT 255-55-R19:


or,

A set of Pirelli Scorpion Ica and Snow 255/55/R19:


The latter two also need an eBay scour for a set of alloys, which is an additional expense I'd rather do without.

Can you fit 55 profile tyres on 20's in the arches, or am I limited to 45 profile as the max depth?

Dr Rick


Only the last set of tyres youre looking at are winter tyres.. the others are just off roaders and wont help you in the ice iiiii

Post #320788 Fri Nov 11 2011 1:23pm
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Rudskibaliblu



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Don't really know any tyres that are any good in ice apart from studded ones which you can't use in the uk. Thumbs Up Now gone Orkney grey SDV6 HSE with body style kit contrast stitch ebony leather, privacy, black piano, 22" Lowenharts for summer, 20" with Leon LTZ for winter.
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Post #320804 Fri Nov 11 2011 2:36pm
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awd man



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The grabbers I had on my D3 were stupidly good in the snow... in fact I drove around 5 miles (un-reg'd roads) to drop off something for a friend in the snow 2 years ago.
Then popped back to swap cars and take the Impreza out for a play.... well I made it to the end of our lane....and gave up... Rolling with laughter

As for Ice, nothing grips ice..whatever the compound.. Thumbs Up RRS gone
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Post #320806 Fri Nov 11 2011 2:42pm
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Jmac



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Rudskibaliblu wrote:
Don't really know any tyres that are any good in ice apart from studded ones which you can't use in the uk. Thumbs Up


Sorry mate but I have to disagree..

Proper winter tyres are vastly better on ice than summer or off road tyres due to the compounds used and also the 'sipes' which are featured on each tread block. I've had quite a bit of experience driving cars on frozen lakes in Finland as part of my job and when compared to summer tyres - the difference is night and day. This was without studs too.

My wife drives a Boxster S and on the summer tyres (Michelin Pilot) the car would not move hen we have had snow and ice - totally useless. I purchased a set of slightly smaller (18 inch) wheels and fitted them with Nokian winter tyres (it's the only brand they use in Finland) and the car was virtually unstoppable in snow and driveable on ice. You still have to be carefull but the difference is massive. A neighbour of mine has a BMW 335i touring which would not move in ice and snow on std tyres but with the winter tyres - he too is able to sail past stranded X5s etc - no doubt with a wry smile across his chopps!

Finally, most car mags have run comparison tests recently showing the difference between the two and they all show it to be massive.

I rest my case your honour...

J

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Rudskibaliblu



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That's all well and good on the flat and slight hills but not one car got up the road past our lane end on snow and ice tyres last year in fact most ended up going backwards, once the momentum and the weight of the car took hold it was see you later.

I had 20s on with contis not then best combo but sailed past everything Shocked That's why I went for the offroaders cause if the contis could do it these babies definitely will Thumbs Up Now gone Orkney grey SDV6 HSE with body style kit contrast stitch ebony leather, privacy, black piano, 22" Lowenharts for summer, 20" with Leon LTZ for winter.
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Post #320815 Fri Nov 11 2011 3:30pm
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Jmac



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Rudskibaliblu wrote:
That's all well and good on the flat and slight hills but not one car got up the road past our lane end on snow and ice tyres last year in fact most ended up going backwards, once the momentum and the weight of the car took hold it was see you later.

I had 20s on with contis not then best combo but sailed past everything Shocked That's why I went for the offroaders cause if the contis could do it these babies definitely will Thumbs Up


I live .5 mile north of the south downs (which is quite a big hill Shocked ) and the Boxster had no problems at all.. Good luck on your off roaders.. Just makes me wonder why most european countrys which suffer from harsh winters insist on winter tyres - even for 4x4s????

this could run and run so I guess we'll have to agree to disagree Thumbs Up .

Cheers,
J

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Rudskibaliblu



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Thumbs Up Now gone Orkney grey SDV6 HSE with body style kit contrast stitch ebony leather, privacy, black piano, 22" Lowenharts for summer, 20" with Leon LTZ for winter.
Here 110 black edition defender.

Post #320827 Fri Nov 11 2011 5:04pm
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Rudskibaliblu wrote:
That's all well and good on the flat and slight hills but not one car got up the road past our lane end on snow and ice tyres last year in fact most ended up going backwards, once the momentum and the weight of the car took hold it was see you later.

I had 20s on with contis not then best combo but sailed past everything Shocked That's why I went for the offroaders cause if the contis could do it these babies definitely will Thumbs Up


+1 on the contis. These are fitted to our Volvo xc90 and came from the vehicle supplier. During the really bad snow we had I was able to take all the back lanes in our local area to avoid traffic on the cleared routes, hills and all.

There was never even the slightest feeling of being out of control or that we would get stuck.

With respect, I think some of this talk of winter tyres could be slightly overstated. Just IMHO, we don't live in nova scotia after all Wink Have i got the busted controller?!?!!?

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peanutbob



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Rudskibaliblu wrote:
Got the 245/45/20 coopers on mine they look good and there is no issue with the size of the tire at all Thumbs Up

I was intending to do exactly the same, but is the speedo reading unaffected? Also, have you had it in a dealer for service etc with these tyres on? I was just wondering if there had been any reaction!

Post #321111 Mon Nov 14 2011 12:53pm
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Rudskibaliblu



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peanutbob wrote:
Rudskibaliblu wrote:
Got the 245/45/20 coopers on mine they look good and there is no issue with the size of the tire at all Thumbs Up

I was intending to do exactly the same, but is the speedo reading unaffected? Also, have you had it in a dealer for service etc with these tyres on? I was just wondering if there had been any reaction!


Not been serviced with these on. Had my 22 inch lowenharts on nothing was mentioned. Thumbs Up Now gone Orkney grey SDV6 HSE with body style kit contrast stitch ebony leather, privacy, black piano, 22" Lowenharts for summer, 20" with Leon LTZ for winter.
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