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white ranger



Member Since: 11 Feb 2009
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France 2009 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Alaska White

rimini looks s**t !!! choose other colors... Laughing Rolling with laughter Whistle

Post #219449 Wed Mar 25 2009 7:45pm
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oilman151



Member Since: 19 Feb 2006
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Wales 2006 Range Rover Sport 4.4 V8 HSE Java Black

Another SW wrote:
Tim in Scotland wrote:
There is also a 4.4iV8 which was available up to 2007MY but wasn't very popular in the UK and the fuel consumption was not a lot less than the S/C but the get up and go was considerably less. The 4.4V8 is a BMW engine and now is only available for export markets.



Not true: The 4.4 is the naturally aspirated version of the 4.2 Supercharged engine: It was increased in capacity for Land Rover use (it is 4.2 in Jaguar applications). It is a properly modern engine with VVT, alloy block, etc. but was dropped from the UK line-up when the TDV8 was launched in late 2006. It is the main engine in petrol markets (Gulf, USA, RoW) and is by no means out of date or anything and is arguably the most refined engine of the lot - less aggressive than the S/C, no turbo lag compared to a diesel, and very quiet and smooth. Don't dismiss it until you've tried it as they are very cheap in the UK and you may well save more than enough in cost than you will ever spend on fuel in a TDV8!

As far as spec is concerned SE / HSE are the only ones with Sat Nav at the age you are looking at and with your budget I would go HSE for all the toys.



Quite right - I was about to reply to Tim's post but came across your reply.
I had a 4.4 for 3 years and it was an excellent engine. Jaguar derived as you point out. I wouldn't hesitate to buy one again. Far from being a "lot slower" than the S/C it wasn't too far away - only 1 second 0-60mph and 10mph less top speed. Anyone been 140mph in their RRS? Thought not. 130mph is quite adequate thank you. I averaged about 18mpg over the 3 years. It's worth considering if you come across one. Still very prevalent outside UK.
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Post #219465 Wed Mar 25 2009 8:33pm
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McBunny



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Germany 2006 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Bonatti Grey

Those prices in Britain Shocked I had to pay waaayyyy more for mine. Big Cry


If you can afford it and have similar mileage to me (i.e. 30,000 a year), take a TDV8, it's by far the best engine for all normal beings (i.e. everybody who can't afford to drive the SC as an every day drive). But if you only drive 10,000 miles or something like that the SC may turn out to be the cheaper car because it should be quite well priced when used. Thumbs Up

The TDV6 is a great car, but of course the TDV8 is just that little bit better in everything, it sounds a little bit better (the TDV6 doesn't sound like a BMW or VW diesel, it actually sounds quite well for a diesel), it is faster, it looks better (grill and vents are sc-look) and of course a V8 is just the way to go in a car like this! Thumbs Up RRS TDV6 HSE, 2006, bonatti grey, ebony interior, rear diff, s/c grille and vents, stormers, privacy, tasmods, iphone integration Wink

Post #219482 Wed Mar 25 2009 9:12pm
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Leo



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Kenya 

oilman151 wrote:

I had a 4.4 for 3 years and it was an excellent engine.....
ANT


My biggest regret is getting the TDV8 over the 4.4V8. Diesel can be of variable quality around here and according to LRSA, the 4.4 is the most reliable of the lot in our conditions. It also doesn't have DR or Brembos as std, so you don't get knocking and can use 18"rims for offroading. You also don't need to worry about EGRs, DPFs, collapsed intercooler pipes, blown turbos etc.

Next one will be petrol Thumbs Up

Post #219487 Wed Mar 25 2009 9:19pm
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Another SW



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G4 back in 2006 used 4.4 engines in all the cars I believe... Think that might say something Wink

Post #219490 Wed Mar 25 2009 9:32pm
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Supertrotter



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Guys, is it not fair to say though that the 4.4V8 lacks a bit in the mid range when compared to the S/C and the TDV8? Runner up - 2009 Best Avatar Award Sad
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Post #219525 Thu Mar 26 2009 7:02am
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marca



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United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Sport 4.4 V8 HSE Tonga Green

Though I've only been driving my 4.4 V8 for a very short while, its good to hear such votes of confidence for the non S/C petrol! I personally haven't noticed any lack mid-range but then my local dealer did a load of software upgrades during a service last week, including to the power train and engine ecu so that may have changed something mid-range - before the service, I only drove it about 20 miles so it's hard to say!

However, the X5 4.4 V8 I had previously did have quite a large lag mid-range and BMW could do nothing to sort it - my RRS 4.4 definitely does not behave as bad as that Thumbs Up Was RRS 4.4 V8 HSE Tonga Green, now Audi Allroad

Post #219551 Thu Mar 26 2009 9:50am
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c76jon



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2007 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Buckingham Blue

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Post #219582 Thu Mar 26 2009 11:27am
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mercuryf1



Member Since: 25 Oct 2008
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Malaysia 

Do the RRS and FFRR share the exact same motor re: 4.4 V8 ?

Post #219723 Thu Mar 26 2009 6:42pm
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Tim in Scotland



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Going on the above they do now - when launched FFRR used 2 BMW engines - the TD6, straight 6 3.0litre TD and the V8 was their 4.4litre. From 2007 (IIRC) FFRR got TDv8 and Jaguar 4.4V8. There is no 4.4V8 available in the UK any longer, it's available in USA and other markets where there is no Euro spec low sulphur diesel that is required for the TDv8
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Post #219731 Thu Mar 26 2009 7:10pm
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Another SW



Member Since: 14 Mar 2009
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United Kingdom 

mercuryf1 wrote:
Do the RRS and FFRR share the exact same motor (4.4 VCool ?


Yes - since 2006 model year (for FFRR that started around May/June 2005). Prior to that it was a BMW 4.4 V8 engine and 5-speed transmission. Current (Jaguar) V8 4.4 has a much better ZF 6-speed gearbox

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