i have just let put the winter tires on my car and now we have 19 degrees sunny weather  
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XXXAngelXXX wrote:

i have just let put the winter tires on my car and now we have 19 degrees sunny weather

I didnt bother putting mine on last weekend and found 30cm of snow on the exit of the St. Bernard tunnel!!!!

Sods law!

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Just put my Pirelli Scorpion Ice & Snows back on using 19" RRS rims. I really like these tyres, but they do wear pretty quickly, which is why I now need to buy a new set. Won't hesitate to buy the same again and I have sourced a set from Kwik Fit, fully fitted at £158 a tyre. That was substantially cheaper than buying Online where each tyre was quoted at around £200 each, obviously not fitted.

Does anyone know what the "NO" marking on some Pirelli's means. There are tyres out there without that marking which appear to be a bit cheaper than the ones with NO marked at the end of the size and speed and load data. The dealer (rather worryingly) doesn't know what the extra "NO" means ? RRS TDv8 HSE Rimini
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There's an N0 (zero) rating...are you sure it's NO? 

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I have the same question; what does this N0 mean. On www.reifendirekt.ch there are two posting for the Pirelli;

1) Pirelli Scorpion ICE + SNOW, 255/50 R19 107V XL RB, M+S Kennung - CHF334
2) Pirelli Scorpion ICE + SNOW, 255/50 R19 107V XL RB, M+S Kennung, N0 - CHF351

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if i am correct NO means for Porsche and the tire is reinforced on the sides compared to the not NO.
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Bob, my tyres arrived at the Kwik Fit depot today and guess what, 2 of them had the "NO" marking and 2 of them didn't. The tyres looked otherwise identical (exactly the same tread pattern, size, markings etc). Kwik Fit couldn't explain the difference and rang their technical department who confirmed that the NO marking meant that the tyre was intended for a Porsche Cayenne but that there was no difference between the 2 types of tyre and that they could be mixed up together. That didn't quite "feel" right to me so I inspected the tyres again and spotted that one pair was marked as being made of Polyester tread and sidewall (shown in tiny lettering) whilst the other set (with the NO marking) was marked as being made of Rayon tread and sidewall. So I asked Kwik Fit to ring Pirrelli technical department and check which version was intended for the RRS. Pirrelli confirmed that the NO version was just intended for Porsche vehicles and they could not recommend it for the RRS as it "had not been tested on that vehicle". They therefore recommended fitting the version without the NO marking. I pointed out that I had tested the version with the NO marking as those markings are present on the set of these tyres I have used the last 2 winters on the RRS (which are now worn out). Nevertheless I went with the non NO marked versions as suggested by Pirelli but also because Kwik Fit could source another pair of those whereas they claimed there were no other NO marked tyres "in the country".

Have I done the right thing or is Rayon better than Polyester ? On the Mytyres website they list both types of tyre with the NO marked version being £20 a tyre more.

BTW, Kwik Fit price was £158 fitted a tyre whereas Mytyres want over £200 - but think I mentioned that earlier..... The Swiss Price seems to be equivalent to about £185. RRS TDv8 HSE Rimini
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I have found the confirmation on a vendor site as well. Supposedly the Porsche need a different setting, hence the N0 rating.

I have decided to get the Pirellis, but probably on the 20" rims. It simply looks so sweet, and I am not entirely sure I will ever know the difference. In the winter I am mostly driving on tarmac, with snow on top, and not 10cm or more. It is only two centimeters on the width, and the comfort is secondary to me.

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i forgot how comfortable the ride with the 19" was compared to the 20"  
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Bob,

just logged on.

The TDV8 only allows for 20" rims due to the brakes. AVAOID reifendirekt.ch. They still owe me money from a year ago the bastards.

I bought Vredestein

http://www.pneutiefpreis.ch/index2.php?lan...90hepinq91

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The 19s will fit over the Brembos.... 18s won't  

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shmoogle wrote:

The 19s will fit over the Brembos.... 18s won't

like shmoogle i think the brembos also fit the 19", see with AngelXXX but i think with 19" they have to change a cable that goes to the calipers if not the brakes wont fit in.
i think 20"s are better with the brembos especially in summer when it is hot...

The 19"'s work just fine with the Brembo's and the TDv8 without any modification. Used them for 10,000 miles now and no problem at all. And a noticeably more comfortable ride than on 20"'s, plus the Pirelli's definitely stick to tarmac (wet, dry or icey) much better than the Conti's and also work quite well off road (where the Conti's are frankly a total liability). Mind you, the 20"'s definitely look a lot better - always thought the 19"'s lack style. RRS TDv8 HSE Rimini
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Smarticus wrote:

Just put my Pirelli Scorpion Ice & Snows back on using 19" RRS rims. I really like these tyres, but they do wear pretty quickly, which is why I now need to buy a new set. Won't hesitate to buy the same again and I have sourced a set from Kwik Fit, fully fitted at £158 a tyre. That was substantially cheaper than buying Online where each tyre was quoted at around £200 each, obviously not fitted.

Does anyone know what the "NO" marking on some Pirelli's means. There are tyres out there without that marking which appear to be a bit cheaper than the ones with NO marked at the end of the size and speed and load data. The dealer (rather worryingly) doesn't know what the extra "NO" means ?

I'm in Russia, just ordered my Pirelli Scorpion Ice & Snows, £300 per tyre over here, so your doing ok with your £158  Supercharged 2006 gone
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