Just heard an interview with George W on the subject of the shootings at Virginia Tech today and one of the things he said was basically that it is the right of every American to carry a fire-arm...........................and he has no plans to change the law even after this! 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
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Nothing is more dangerous than a Yank with a gun.., ask the Britsih Soldiers???  MY12 SDV6 HSE Sumatra/Ebony/Piano/Sidesteps/Privacy/Overfinch Olympus/JLR DRLs

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Dont ban the guns, make them more difficult to get hold of is what I say. I was gutted when hand guns were banned here!

When your vetted for firearms in the UK, a police officer come to your house and weeks of checks are done, in USA its much easier. I say make it harder with better checks.

Judging by the number of shootings in the UK at present DOC, our system isn't working either..................... 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
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Tim in Scotland wrote:

Judging by the number of shootings in the UK at present DOC, our system isn't working either.....................

Tim, I live in London where most of these shootings occur and can assure you this an entirely separate issue. These are black gangs who dont conform with any laws! Now what do you do?  MY12 SDV6 HSE Sumatra/Ebony/Piano/Sidesteps/Privacy/Overfinch Olympus/JLR DRLs

ban all guns imo

I agree with Kaine. Anyone found with a gun should be shot with it. A bit severe but it should sort out the problem  2002 Discovery Adventurer LE
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Plenty of shootings & stabbings in the Midlands - every week - Birmingham & Nottingham are on the news every night - we hear more from these two towns than we do of London

Guns and cars dont Kill - it's People who Kill  
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MDP wrote:

Plenty of shootings & stabbings in the Midlands - every week - Birmingham & Nottingham are on the news every night - we hear more from these two towns than we do of London

Guns and cars dont Kill - it's People who Kill

True MDP.., but we should still ban guns and do all we can to prevent them being obtained and used illegally. Andy's measures may be a little excessive.., but it might act as the missing deterrent that the existing law clearly doesnt provide?

Society has changed and isn't responsible enough to be trusted with guns!!!  MY12 SDV6 HSE Sumatra/Ebony/Piano/Sidesteps/Privacy/Overfinch Olympus/JLR DRLs

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MDP wrote:

Plenty of shootings & stabbings in the Midlands - every week - Birmingham & Nottingham are on the news every night - we hear more from these two towns than we do of London

Guns and cars dont Kill - it's People who Kill

True MDP.., but we should still ban guns and do all we can to prevent them being obtained and used illegally. Andy's measures may be a little excessive.., but it might act as the missing deterrent that the existing law clearly doesnt provide?

Society has changed and isn't responsible enough to be trusted with guns!!!

How very TRUE  
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MDP wrote:

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Guns and cars dont Kill - it's People who Kill

This brings us to the beginning of the thread... kill the people!  Malaysia Boleh!
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Criminalise guns and only the criminals have them. All the recent shootings have been with hand guns which have been illegal since 97. Since then hand gun crime has rocketed, the only people who gave up their hand guns were the law abiding ones and they didn't use them for crime anyway.

People kill others everyday in their cars, driving under the influence of drugs or alcohol & speeding, do we ban all cars?

I have several shotguns and rifles, they are tools to carry out my sport, they are not their to make me feel powerful, my 7 year old lad shoots air rifles and has been brought up to respect guns but also to view them like a hammer or screw driver (both leathal in the wrong hands)

What needs to change in this country is the mystic of firearms so they are not worshipped by youngsters and adults alike. They are not in the slightest bit dangerous, it is only people using them that are.

Guns don't kill people - rappers do

Andy wrote:

I agree with Kaine. Anyone found with a gun should be shot with it. A bit severe but it should sort out the problem

Totally agree Andy, and no its not to severe at all, that would sort it out  some of my Previous cars
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