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Josh



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Pensions

Anybody got the priviledge of a non state pension to look forward to Question

If you have, an interesting fact has come to my attention. Did you know that men and women pay the same amount of cash into these schemes.

But come the day, thanks to a bit of ancient legislation written in 1994 quoting statistics fromthat time, that states because women live longer than men they will get a bigger pension for longer Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation Big Cry Big Cry

Where does that fit into equal rights and human rights Question

Damn sure if it was the other way around it would have been changed by now Exclamation

Now this is a subject worthy of petitioning the government over or do we have any legal boffs willing to go to the European Courts for men and equal rights in the work place Question TDV6 - gone
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I know what you're saying Josh but the facts speak for themselves - women's life expectancy is greater than man. Remember all these life insurance companies are either member owned or shareholder owned and have to pay for themselves, part of living in a capitalist country. I have no problem with it. 2005 Zambezi TDV6 - Gone but not forgotten
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I'm with you on this one Josh. Equality should be a two-way street: correctly, no male preference allowed in the workplace so no anti-male discrimination with anything else.., INCLUDING SHIELA'S BLOODY FEMINIST WHEELS!!! Evil or Very Mad MY12 SDV6 HSE Sumatra/Ebony/Piano/Sidesteps/Privacy/Overfinch Olympus/JLR DRLs

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If we are going for the whole equality lark I think it's unfair that ..................

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Very Annoyed wrote:
If we are going for the whole equality lark I think it's unfair that ..................

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Re: Pensions

Josh wrote:
But come the day, thanks to a bit of ancient legislation written in 1994 quoting statistics fromthat time, that states because women live longer than men they will get a bigger pension for longer Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation Big Cry Big Cry



I think you'll find the less life expectancy you have the better the annuity rate is. If you smoke you will get a better deal than a non smoker and if you have a medical condition such as diabetes or heart problems you qualify for impaired life rates, so you are best to use your open market option to get the best deal. Of course it goes without saying you should see your friendly IFA!! Wink Wink

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Re: Pensions

Pelyma wrote:
Josh wrote:
But come the day, thanks to a bit of ancient legislation written in 1994 quoting statistics fromthat time, that states because women live longer than men they will get a bigger pension for longer Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation Big Cry Big Cry



I think you'll find the less life expectancy you have the better the annuity rate is. If you smoke you will get a better deal than a non smoker and if you have a medical condition such as diabetes or heart problems you qualify for impaired life rates, so you are best to use your open market option to get the best deal. Of course it goes without saying you should see your friendly IFA!! Wink Wink


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Re: Pensions

Pelyma wrote:
Josh wrote:
But come the day, thanks to a bit of ancient legislation written in 1994 quoting statistics fromthat time, that states because women live longer than men they will get a bigger pension for longer Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation Big Cry Big Cry



I think you'll find the less life expectancy you have the better the annuity rate is. If you smoke you will get a better deal than a non smoker and if you have a medical condition such as diabetes or heart problems you qualify for impaired life rates, so you are best to use your open market option to get the best deal. Of course it goes without saying you should see your friendly IFA!! Wink Wink


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So better annuity rate for men...............so why does that equal less money for a shorter time for men Question Confused TDV6 - gone
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Josh are you comparing like with like? I don't know of a situation where a woman would get a better deal on a like for like basis. If a woman is the same age, same health, same fund size, no GARs, same company she would get less than the man. I don't do a lot of pension work, IHT is my thing, but I spoke to the head of our annuity bureau to confirm this and the company is the second biggest IFA in the UK now so they do!

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Dont talk to me about PENSIONS Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

Just got two words to say " Equitable Life " Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil


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Ah ... at least I can attribute something to equitable Life then ! Big Cry 
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