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Pistnbroke



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Adding two stroke oil to fuel. yes/no

Read about this ..anyone tried it and it what ratio. Always listen to old people or when they die you will live on in ignorance.
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jimbg



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https://www.rrsport.co.uk/forum/topic54001...two+stroke 2023 P440e SE Dynamic on order -cancelled

2022 HSE Dynamic P400e

2017 Discovery 3.0 HSE Silicon Silver Nimbus interior and a few extra toys SOLD

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Pistnbroke



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Thanks but does not answer the question Always listen to old people or when they die you will live on in ignorance.
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Learned to 4x4 on 100 mile beach and Frazer Island QLD
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jimbg



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Probaly not, nor in the other 43 posts on the subject!

I guess there is no definitive answer. 2023 P440e SE Dynamic on order -cancelled

2022 HSE Dynamic P400e

2017 Discovery 3.0 HSE Silicon Silver Nimbus interior and a few extra toys SOLD

2013 HSE Black, Orkney Grey, Ebony Seats and Ivory Interior SOLD

2006 HSE

Plus a few other cars inbetween!

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Pistnbroke



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United Kingdom 2009 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Galway Green

I think I read 400ml to a full tank Which is 200;1 which sounds a bit high Always listen to old people or when they die you will live on in ignorance.
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Learned to 4x4 on 100 mile beach and Frazer Island QLD
Dont spend money on old cars you will never get it back

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Pistnbroke



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United Kingdom 2009 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Galway Green

I think I read 400ml to a full tank Which is 200;1 which sounds a bit high Always listen to old people or when they die you will live on in ignorance.
The avatar is a picture of the man with a big cock.
Learned to 4x4 on 100 mile beach and Frazer Island QLD
Dont spend money on old cars you will never get it back

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Andy K



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Sounds the recommended ratio.

I use it now and again. Ideally every other tank full. But that works out expensive.
You should be able to hear the difference at the top end of engine.

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Lindab



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http://www.freel2.com/forum/topic22434.html?highlight=yamahafan
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Brian Considine



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I used to use Millers & never supermarket diesel.

When the MB Vito came out a mate & I bought one each - he used supermarket diesel & no additives.
I used premium fule & Millers.

He had new imjectors every 50k miles...............

I never had anything on the engine replaced (apart from oil & filters) and the engine was as good as new after 250k miles (tinworm was rampant though).

That's my experience, however, thesedays I use mineral two-stroke as engines that were built nearly 20 years ago were designed for diesel with sulphur (which acts as a lubricant for injection components) & of course the diesel you get thesedays does not contain sulphur. 2006 RRS 2.7 HSE.

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Stevepd



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I also use it and have done so since early on after the purchase of the car, some 7 years ago. From my experience it did nothing for the MPG, it did make it quieter and come MOT my emissions are incredibly low. Regarding the question its 200:1 I use. I've got a used water bottle with a long neck and have done the arithmetic and marked the bottle. It gets topped up to the mark. I put it in the tank whilst getting the disposable pump glove and then fill up. I only use regular shell diesel. 2006 2.7 TDV6 HSE in Cairns Blue.

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Pistnbroke



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So there we have it 200:1...I was planning to use i on my next long trip across europe . Always listen to old people or when they die you will live on in ignorance.
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Learned to 4x4 on 100 mile beach and Frazer Island QLD
Dont spend money on old cars you will never get it back

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Lrstaylor



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Nothing wrong with adding to a tank full it was a common practice for me when running our old tdi on veg oil and then our tdv6 d3 on derv. Mind you I ran the old tdi on all sorts of stuff and it's still going at over 250k miles on original engine and injectors

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RRSTDV8



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Total snake oil nonsense.

It started with an internet post about using it and it snowballed - no actual empirical evidence just a load of supposition and anecdote. It's the QAnon of engines, basically.

Use good fuel. Change the oil regularly. Use decent oil and filters. Anything else is bunkum. Thumbs Up 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

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Dave B



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We used to use it to great effect on an old straight 6, 3litre Opel Senator petrol engine.

Much much quieter, especially on start up, and did improve the mpg which could be diabolical if driven with haste.

However, that was not a high pressure fuel injection system, so the lubrication element was appreciated.

Not sure it would have the same effect on the modern precision high pressure systems we have now though.


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Brian Considine



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RRSTDV8 wrote:
Total snake oil nonsense.

It started with an internet post about using it and it snowballed - no actual empirical evidence just a load of supposition and anecdote. It's the QAnon of engines, basically.

Use good fuel. Change the oil regularly. Use decent oil and filters. Anything else is bunkum. Thumbs Up


Well that's you opinion, to which you are entiltled too, but then again you seem to have to have an opinion on almost everything.

A local to me MOT Station often gets diesels that just fail the smoke test** - their advice is to run some two-stroke or Whynns through with a couple of tankfuls - guess what ? second time they pass. So, IMHO that quantifies as "empirical evedence".

** including well maintained diesels running on decent branded fuel.

FWIW I've run new diesels for the past 30 years or so using either Millers or two-stroke - every single one has covered 250/350kplus miles, still running well and never, ever an engine issue with any of them. Wheras other people I know, who don't use additives have issues.

What it boils down to is those that use additives will continue to do so (after all it cannot do any harm).
Do you have any "empirical evedence" to the contrary ?
Those that are against additives will not use them.

You contradict yourself anyway by promoting "decent fuel" because the fuel companies themselves tell us they put additives in it ! 2006 RRS 2.7 HSE.

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