What "most" adverts???
Blogs from a company that sells catalytic converters?
Blog post from a company that sells 2SO and does not think it is OK in a modern engine?
Motortrend, one of the world's finest sources of automotive knowledge since 1949?
Forum of another oil company that sells 2SO and warns own customers against buying it?
Two scientific papers? Is it an advert for ya?

Is it some alternative reality you live in? Regards etc.,

Wojtek

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WAS: 2006 RRS Supercharged
IS: 2010 RRS TDV8 HSE

Well I know engine oil brands and grades are always good for an argument, wasn’t expecting one on 2so

Brian Considine wrote:

RRSTDV8 wrote:

And the zinc in mineral 2SO can increase injector fouling as well as contaminate catalytic converters.

Prove it with some facts or please shut up (we all know how you love facts/data).

I've already given enough figures based on my own experience of something like in excess of 1.5m miles.

So please stop arguing for the sake of arguing and increasin your post count.

Due to the way the pages change on this forum I dont think many picked up on ///

///// the cost of the 2 stroke oil is quite high so without proof that it works is it worth it ? Always listen to old people or when they die you will live on in ignorance.
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Dont spend money on old cars you will never get it back

Which is why I don’t put it in every tank full

TheWojtek wrote:

While relatively fresh here, you must be popular in other circles with your polite demeanour.

Col wrote:

Brian Considine wrote:

RRSTDV8 wrote:

And the zinc in mineral 2SO can increase injector fouling as well as contaminate catalytic converters.

Prove it with some facts or please shut up (we all know how you love facts/data).

I've already given enough figures based on my own experience of something like in excess of 1.5m miles.

So please stop arguing for the sake of arguing and increasin your post count.

But you haven't proven anything with documented evidence or fact's either, just simply your own "experience" and what someone at the local mot station has said. Where are the documented scientific facts/evidence to support your statement i.e test data, emission figure read outs etc. etc. Yes specific fuel additives probably do work even L/R recommend using one they specify under certain conditions albeit for petrol engines. As for two stroke oil in some 20 year old engines might do something, in modern engines/fuel systems and fuels it is compete tripe and does nothing, unless of course you can produce proven facts and figures to the contrary to substantiate your statement rather than just hearsay.

Cheers
Col

jimbg wrote:

So how have you managed get personal experience of that many miles?

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I have quoted personal experience so people are free to make up their own minds.

As for documentry evidence then you are welcome to examine the FSH's of the vehicles I ran using 2T with the diesel which will confirm my experience.

To re-iterate I have already stated that I would not use 2T in current production diesel engines as I am aware that they have been designed to run on the fuel available today. Older engines were designed to run with sulphur which lubricated parts of the fuel system - suphur is no longer poresent so i replace it with 2T.
Please read what I actually write before you mis-quote me.[/quote]

I have not misquoted you because your personal experience and fsh proves nothing only that you put two stroke in the fuel, where is the scientific data that it actually did any good, when we were working in the middle east and asia with heavy construction plant, due to poor quality of fuel we simply put engine oil in the fuel, did it do any good, I haven't the faintest idea as i have no technical data to prove it one way or the other but we think it did.

Cheers
Col

Brian Considine wrote:

RRSTDV8 wrote:

And the zinc in mineral 2SO can increase injector fouling as well as contaminate catalytic converters.

Prove it with some facts or please shut up (we all know how you love facts/data).

I've already given enough figures based on my own experience of something like in excess of 1.5m miles.

So please stop arguing for the sake of arguing and increasin your post count.

Brian Considine wrote:

TheWojtek wrote:

While relatively fresh here, you must be popular in other circles with your polite demeanour.

I have a relatively low tollerence with people who don't read posts correctly and then quickly dash off replies

Brian Considine wrote:

(maybe to add to their post count, who knows).

Brian Considine wrote:

I don't say anything on a foirum that I would not say to anyones face (ask anyone who knows me) and furthermore I don't hide behind a handle/nickname.

RRSTDV8 & Wojtec.

I have provided my experience which can be backed up with the FSH's of the various vehicles over the 1.5m miles - these are not just folders of invoices they are on Excel Spreadsheets.

Neither of you have really read my posts correctly or taken them in the correct context.

People are free to make their own choices after reading all the posts on this thread.

Now, lets do everyone a favoUr, agree to disagree & drop it, I will if you will.

Have a pleasant evening & goodnight. 2006 RRS 2.7 HSE.

I tried it. Car seemed marginally smoother. But my ar$e doesn’t have a degree in Automotive Engineering 🤣

A little bit of deflection here, but to keep 'views' going, in the late 80s early 90s, when 'trucking' to what was still the USSR in winter, the standard additive to diesel was petrol, as much as 25% when temperatures went lower than -25c.

Whilst the engine was running it wasn't so bad (warm fuel running back to the tank), but an overnight stop with the engine off meant you were lucky if the battery didn't go flat trying to pump 'wax'.

Oh they were the days.


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2011 Discovery 4 Commercial SDV6 (Gone)
1980 OBLIC 4.0ltr Range Rover (went a long time ago)