muddywheels wrote:

I'm now moaning about fumes from vehicles in front a lot more though

Not from me: while you're bimbling along checking your mpg readouts I'll be long gone up the road turning dinosaurs in to noise...  2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

Saw this and thought of you Muddy....

https://www.alpha-deals.com/product/4-in-1...aign=cc-wa

It needs battery's Ady,,so it wont be any good to Muddy as it will affect the economy

Andy Andy.
21 Ford Ranger
Gone but not forgotten
Focus RS Red Edition
2015 RRS AB Fuji.
2014 RRS SC Santorini
2016 VW Amarok
2014 RRS AB Fuji
2012 RRS Red Edition Fuji
2015 Nissan Navara
2012 RRS SE Santorini
2008 RRS White
2007 RRS Santorino

 Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

Tyrefitter wrote:

It needs battery's Ady,,so it wont be any good to Muddy as it will affect the economy

Andy

Are you insinuating that Milk Float Man is a tight Yorkshire man.  In Spain - 2018 F Pace - Frightened away from the Sports due to crank failures
Gone - A couple of RRS, A couple of Disco's. However thinking of another Sport.

On a serious note (I know it's hard when referring to the Float)

Muddy, Can the Phev have 4 wheel drive all the time, i.e, Does the petrol engine deliver drive to the rear wheels, or does it only have 4 wheel drive when fully charged as battery power is the only power source to the rear wheels. In Spain - 2018 F Pace - Frightened away from the Sports due to crank failures
Gone - A couple of RRS, A couple of Disco's. However thinking of another Sport.

What a serious question



It's 4wd all the time on electric

When the batteries are low it switches to petrol and either drives electric motors or front wheels depending on speed/power required - it also tops up batteries

Batteries never fully discharge and retain some power to run rear motor when it detects you need extra power or grip and at low speeds pulling away

There is also a 4wd switch which is electronic version of a Diff lock - this locks front and rear motors to simulate Diff lock for difficult conditions

Everything is done seamlessly by the onboard computer and so far not a single glitch or warning lamp as it does it's thing  Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

Bottom line is it gives the hamsters a poke to run faster

muddywheels wrote:

There is also a 4wd switch which is electronic version of a Diff lock - this locks front and rear motors to simulate Diff lock for difficult conditions

Difficult conditions? What, a damp road?  2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

Actually we had some heavy rain the other day and lot of standing water but it didn't suffer from the steering wheel grab experienced on RRS so another tick for the Mitsubishi  Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

Never had a problem with standing water like that. Might be tyre specific or maybe the different front toe settings on the TDV8 help.

Although it's fun (and easy ) taking the Mickey out of your milk float, the reality is that for most RRS owners it does everything they need. Most don't tow or do anything away from tarmac: the huge ability of the RRS is thus wasted most of the time.

I was impressed by the Mitsubishi PHEV when I drove one last year. The technology is very nicely implemented. Just let down by the lack of a decent tow capacity and it is a tarmac-only car really. The 4wd is more a way of implementing the electric drive than it is providing go-anywhere ability.

I keep thinking about getting something like a milk float or the BMW i3 for work. Problem is that the RRS would then be sat on the drive most of the time and that's not good for them. Also, the RRS does have the perma-grin effect as they say over in Disco3...

Tricky decisions.

Thing is, if I was going to spend £30k on another vehicle, I'd rather buy a FFRR or a D4 than an EV.  2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

The first MY10 RRS I bought had 20" summer tyres as standard and was definitely designed for dry Tarmac - I'd rather take my chances in the PHEV factory guise than that before I fitted 19" M&S tyres

I agree with you on the PHEV meeting the needs of most owners - that's why I bought one

If I still had the twin axle and camping in farm fields I would of kept the Black Edition and run it into the ground I think but for my lifestyle now the PHEV suits me and once I get my tax rebate back will have cost me £25k with 3 year servicing and 5 year warranty - I would of been buying a load of trouble for that much money if I bought a LR

Members in Scandinavia say it handles brilliantly in all conditions - that will do me

I would of liked a FFRR once upon a time but haven't bought used for years and I'm not paying £90k to be treated like by the dealers and LR

Still fancy a series and a good Indy but right now I don't see myself crossing the threshold of a LR dealer any time soon

Last time I went in 2 LR dealer with faults on my DS they were looking at 6-8 weeks to look at it then order parts so another trip would be needed even though I gave them the Topix references with procedure - this was after I waited 20 minutes to speak to someone

I have a creak on Mitsy drivers seat so called in unannounced this week at local dealer (not dealer who sold it) - 2 salesmen greeted me as I walked through door and guy on service desk got a mechanic to come and look - he examined it and said we will need to book it to sort - he walked back to service desk with me and explained. They could of done it this week but I needed a courtesy car so it would be 2 weeks. I can't remember the last time I got that level of service from a LR dealer  Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

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Members in Scandinavia say it handles brilliantly in all conditions

But the Scandinavians can drive Muddy.

Ouch  In Spain - 2018 F Pace - Frightened away from the Sports due to crank failures
Gone - A couple of RRS, A couple of Disco's. However thinking of another Sport.

 Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!