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garrycol



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Just be aware that the chassis loops are not up to the job when towing a heavy trailer. There has been one reported incident here where a heavy caravan and D3 parted ways and the loops failed with the chain shackles pulling through the hoops.

I suggest using the tow point ring to connect the safety chains.

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muddywheels
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The design of uk brake cable is much weaker than the forged rings on the chassis - I can not see how they would break unless they were damaged or incorrect equipment connected Confused

I never had an issue with fouled cable using recovery eye either but as investigators look to attach blame I would rather use the equipment correctly than run the risk of them using this against me Embarassed Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

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garrycol



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muddywheels wrote:
The design of uk brake cable is much weaker than the forged rings on the chassis - I can not see how they would break unless they were damaged or incorrect equipment connected Confused



I take it that your caravans do not have security chains. Here all trailers/caravans must have security chains that connect it to the tow vehicle and trailers/vans over 2 tonnes also have to have a breakaway system that activates the trailer brakes if the safety chains fail (after the tow hitch arrangement has failed) and the trailer actually parts company from the car. In the situation I mentioned above, the caravan hitch detached from the car and the weight of the caravan was taken by the safety chains which ripped out of the holes that are in the rear cross member for this purpose, the van then parted the D3 completely and the breakaway brakes activated stopping the van - however the shackle points on the D3 for the safety chains should not have failed.

Irrespective of the fitting of brake-away brakes, in our system the van and car should always remain connected together, irrespective if the hitch fails. 07MY RRS TDV6
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Post #397907 Thu Oct 10 2013 12:18pm
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muddywheels
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We use the type shown to pull on caravan handbrake if it comes detached - it is designed to snap Thumbs Up


 Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

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Post #397908 Thu Oct 10 2013 12:26pm
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garrycol



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So if your hitch fails and you are doing 100kph, the van and the car parts company and even though the van brakes are applied it still is doing 100kph slowing down ad taking maybe 200m to stop - in the intervening time it has wiped out heaps of cars.

At least in our system the van stays attached to the car via safety chains (or is supposed to in the case of a D3/RRS) where the lot can still be steered and brought to a safe stop. I have a Mitch Hitch on my RRS so the crappy and unsafe Landrover gear is not used.

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Post #397913 Thu Oct 10 2013 12:35pm
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garrycol



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So if your hitch fails and you are doing 100kph, the van and the car parts company and even though the van brakes are applied it still is doing 100kph slowing down ad taking maybe 200m to stop - in the intervening time it has wiped out heaps of cars.

At least in our system the van stays attached to the car via safety chains (or is supposed to in the case of a D3/RRS) where the lot can still be steered and brought to a safe stop. I have a Mitch Hitch on my RRS so the crappy and unsafe Landrover gear is not used.

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Post #397914 Thu Oct 10 2013 12:36pm
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