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espy



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Youtuber - Letter to CEO of JLR

This guy has been harassing JLR about what they are doing to improve matters re thefts, insurance, etc.

Might be worth following to see if he gets any answers.

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Post #637919 Fri Dec 08 2023 5:43pm
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Canary



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Been following this guy through out this series on thefts hopefully JLR respond especially regarding reactivating LR insurance to cover their own cars, I have my lounger & popcorn ready and I think its gonna be long wait? MY18 SCV8 Satin flux silver
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MY19 SV VELAR AUTOBIOGRAPHY firenze red
MY18 SCV8 Yulong white- perfect šŸ‘
MY16 SDV8 SANTORINI BLACK - perfect šŸ‘Œ
MY64 SCV8 DARK BLUE - nightmare car
MY64 SCV8 FIRENZE RED - loads of annoying issues
MY15 SDV6 FIRENZE RED - perfect šŸ‘Œ
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Post #637945 Sat Dec 09 2023 2:09pm
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espy



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Update here:

A bit long but basically, what he is also working on is trying to persuade insurers to accept Ghost immobilisers as making the car virtually theft proof and set the premiums appropriately. 2020 SVR Santorini Black
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Post #638019 Mon Dec 11 2023 7:24pm
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Disco_Mikey



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Ghost isn't 100% secure. Better than JLR security, but still has its issues


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Post #638023 Mon Dec 11 2023 9:51pm
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Farmer Chalk



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It all depends what circuit they have used .. the usual start inhibit wonā€™t work when the thieves are hitting the stop start circuitryā€¦.

Post #638029 Mon Dec 11 2023 10:49pm
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espy



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I think that the correct way is to set it up on the gearbox.
On mine, the car starts without the code but will not go into gear. 2020 SVR Santorini Black
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2005 SC Zermatt Silver
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Post #638036 Tue Dec 12 2023 10:14am
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Does it stay locked in Park? If not, it's towable and, with the engine running, the brakes work so you can tow it quite briskly if required. 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
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Post #638039 Tue Dec 12 2023 2:07pm
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espy



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If they really want the car that much, they could just bring a flat bed truck and crane it away.
The normal car thief is not going to tow a car away - too easy to spot and no chance of getting away if the police do go after them. 2020 SVR Santorini Black
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2016 SVR Santorini Black
2009 SC Stornoway Grey
2005 SC Zermatt Silver
1999 P38
1990 Overfinch Classic

Post #638047 Tue Dec 12 2023 5:21pm
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scrumps



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Hi,

Mineā€™s on the gearbox. You can start the car - personally or remotely - but if you donā€™t clear GHOST then trying to select ANY gear kills the engine and makes any attempt to start almost like the engine is seized, it wonā€™t even turn over.

Iā€™m content that GHOST on top of Secure Tracker Pro gives me a fighting chance of keeping hold of my car, and I avoid big cities like the plague too! Very Happy

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Post #638048 Tue Dec 12 2023 5:22pm
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Mike London



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JLR could quite easily build a ā€˜ghostā€™ style immobiliser into the software requiring a PIN code to start the car or allow gear selection without owners having to spend a small fortune on aftermarket solutions. 2014 RRS AB Santorini Black

Post #638199 Tue Dec 19 2023 2:38pm
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espy



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Latest update:



Possibly looking a bit better for Insurance and car values. 2020 SVR Santorini Black
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2009 SC Stornoway Grey
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Post #638808 Sun Jan 14 2024 8:13pm
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Mac35



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From what I understand a Ghost installer can basically virginise a Ghost in the event a customer forgets their pin and has lost their card with the back door code for that unit. So is that is true it wouldnā€™t surprise me if thieves now have access to how to do this.

I still have a Ghost and a disclock on mine. Itā€™s looks like neither are 100% secure but like to think it gives a fighting chance of keeping hold of the car. Since getting GAP never mind return to invoice GAP for a RRS is next to impossible, I guessed itā€™s best to try as much as possible.

The problem is we can try as much as possible to secure our cars but thieves are never far behind the next time evolution of security. If they want it, they will always find a way.

Post #639087 Wed Jan 24 2024 11:21am
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scrumps



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Hi,

For the installer to do anything to the GHOST after installation they need to find the unit, physically access the unit, reinstate the ā€œlearn loopā€ wire (which is physically cut after initial configuration), then re-configure the unit with a laptop with the right software and a Bluetooth connection.

It took two hours to fit my unit, I watched the gentleman do it and afterwards, I couldnā€™t tell where it was.

If someone has the ability to override the UWB technology on my L461 to get in the car then do all of the aboveā€¦..good luck!

Scrumps Somerset - Where the apples do grow and the cider do flow!
2021 Defender 90 D250 HSE in Tasman with white roof.
24MY D300 AB - Verasine Blue - šŸ˜€
19MY SDV6 AB - Byron Blue - Gone
17MY D5 SDV6 HSE - Firenze Red - Gone
16MY SDV6 AB -Aruba Silver - Gone
13.5MY SDV6 "HSE Black" - Baltic Blue - Gone
10MY TDV8 HSE Galway Green - Gone
14MY D4 HSE in Scotia Grey - Gone
05 TD5 D90 CSW in Cairns Blue

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