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MHSPORT08

Member Since: 13 Nov 2023
Location: South East
Posts: 38

2008 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Java Black

I'll take a look at the headlight and report back.... hopefully not AFS but they do have the cornering lights which illuminate at each side when the steering wheel is turned.

Does the unit need removing to see the yellow label?

Mon Nov 20 2023 11:16am

Eaters

Member Since: 11 Apr 2016
Location: East Sussex
Posts: 1538

2008 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Zermatt Silver

The label should be clearly visible on top of the headlight.

Click image to enlarge

I have a sorry tale of trying to avoid spending £1200 on a new AFS headlight via Land Rover. But after many years of struggling with a faulty one, I found that buying the identical brand new headlight made by Hella (who make the LR one) from LR Centre was "just" £466 (Jan 2020). All that was different is was that it didn't have an LR sticker on it. I've just had a quick look on their site and they don't seem to have any but might be worth looking around. Second hand may work but there's always the risk... Robin
2008 Range Rover Sport TDV8
Gone:
Jaguar S-Type V8 4.2 Sport
MGZTT 190 2.5

Mon Nov 20 2023 11:44am

MHSPORT08

Member Since: 13 Nov 2023
Location: South East
Posts: 38

Hi Eaters

No yellow AFS labels on top of the lights so I'll cross my fingers I can adjust them with a screwdriver once the height issue is sorted.

Do you have the ID tool which can do height calibration, need to find someone on here who's local 9I'm near Gatwick) who might help me do it for a couple of beers.

Cheers
Martin

Tue Nov 21 2023 8:25am

Eaters

Member Since: 11 Apr 2016
Location: East Sussex
Posts: 1538

Sorry, I've not invested in one (yet). Poor dexterity and limited area to work on the car means I end up using my indi for most stuff Robin
2008 Range Rover Sport TDV8
Gone:
Jaguar S-Type V8 4.2 Sport
MGZTT 190 2.5

Tue Nov 21 2023 8:35am

RRSTDV8

Member Since: 12 Aug 2011
Location: Northamptonshire
Posts: 8974

2012 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Orkney Grey

I'm surprised that yours doesn't have the AFS headlights as I thought that it was standard fit on the TDV8. 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

Tue Nov 21 2023 9:16am

Eaters

Member Since: 11 Apr 2016
Location: East Sussex
Posts: 1538

MHSPORT08 wrote:
Hi Eaters

No yellow AFS labels on top of the lights so I'll cross my fingers I can adjust them with a screwdriver once the height issue is sorted.

I'm no expert having had no experience of a non-AFS RRS but I'm slightly surprised they aren't AFS as I assumed that the TDV8 HSE had them as standard (along with a lot of other toys). I'm sure others on here will advise if they were optional. And the fact that one of your headlights is pointing down would suggest they are AFS otherwise why would it be pointing down?

I think another way to check would be to park the car facing a wall with everything off.
Turn on headlights.
Start the car whilst watching the headlights against the wall.
They should do the "dance".
If they do they are AFS

Robin
2008 Range Rover Sport TDV8
Gone:
Jaguar S-Type V8 4.2 Sport
MGZTT 190 2.5

Tue Nov 21 2023 10:43am

Andy K

Member Since: 18 Sep 2015
Location: GL
Posts: 4943

2005 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Rimini Red

I thought AFS was optional on all models. (thankfully)

As well as the dance, and the fact that the beam can move left and right too, there is also an orange light on the dash on start-up. This is the headlight symbol pointing frontwards in orange. If you look closer there are arrows too. If it's faulty the light will stay on. (and no doubt come on if there are ABS or steering angle errors)

The light is in the speedo cluster.

I think suspension calibration maybe VIN locked on the IID.

Maybe consider an Autel AP200 in white if you can get one for around £50 (ebay/amazon). Some people love them, some hate them, but for the price worth having. It can be a bit slow. and features may get removed

https://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/autel-ap200...92402.html

I'm not going to say its easy to cal the suspension with it, but ppl have managed to.

https://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/autel-ap200...ight=ap200

Tue Nov 21 2023 5:41pm

MHSPORT08

Member Since: 13 Nov 2023
Location: South East
Posts: 38

Thanks all, gives me some more options and things to buy......

At this rate if I take on a workshop lease I could start up as an Indy

Tue Nov 21 2023 6:57pm

RRSTDV8

Member Since: 12 Aug 2011
Location: Northamptonshire
Posts: 8974

Andy K wrote:
I thought AFS was optional on all models. (thankfully)

Standard on TDV8 and, I think, the SC in the original version RRS.

AFS is a good system when it's working, and I miss the headlights from my AFS-equipped original TDV8 - much better than the headlights on my facelift non-AFS SDV6. 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

Tue Nov 21 2023 7:26pm

Andy K

Member Since: 18 Sep 2015
Location: GL
Posts: 4943

D3 lights are known to be better than D4 lights.
So I wonder if that is a similar reason to why you like your old lights, rather than the AFS function itself ?

Tue Nov 21 2023 7:30pm

Andy K

Member Since: 18 Sep 2015
Location: GL
Posts: 4943

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/364030927032?mk...media=COPY

Avoid 2023 models. Older better as can program keys

Tue Nov 21 2023 10:00pm

RRSTDV8

Member Since: 12 Aug 2011
Location: Northamptonshire
Posts: 8974

Andy K wrote:
D3 lights are known to be better than D4 lights.
So I wonder if that is a similar reason to why you like your old lights, rather than the AFS function itself ?

Two separate issues.

I like AFS for what it does. I found it worked well for me, along with the cornering lights (which, again, were better than the ones on the facelift).

I prefer the older lights' beam pattern over the facelift's beam pattern. I'm fairly sure it's because the facelift was designed so that one doesn't need to change the beam shape when going from RHD roads to LHD roads. No doubt a cost saving for LR when building the cars but it meant the lights are simply not as good.

Have you had issues with AFS? 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

Tue Nov 21 2023 10:09pm

MHSPORT08

Member Since: 13 Nov 2023
Location: South East
Posts: 38

I took a closer look last night and I def don't have AFS

This is an 08 HSE TDV8 model so perhaps they didn't push that option button when it was ordered? I took the old girl down the road and found a my fav wall..... (no this isn't going where you might think lol) and adjusted the turn screws and brought the O/S dipped beam up to match the N/S. Its right at the end of adjustment but ok and I suspect we'll need to reset it after height calibration.

I ordered new cold climate PAS fluid from Smith & Allen and a new ACE valve (I bet its never been changed) so a job for the weekend while i'm changing the diff oils.

Wed Nov 22 2023 9:37am

Eaters

Member Since: 11 Apr 2016
Location: East Sussex
Posts: 1538

Robin
2008 Range Rover Sport TDV8
Gone:
Jaguar S-Type V8 4.2 Sport
MGZTT 190 2.5

Wed Nov 22 2023 3:08pm

RRSTDV8

Member Since: 12 Aug 2011
Location: Northamptonshire
Posts: 8974

AFS can be a when it goes wrong - likely someone said "sod that!" then they saw the price of the AFS units over the none-AFS versions and just stuck standard units in.

For future reference, you can really check by seeing if the AFS box is on the bottom of the light unit.

https://www.rrsport.co.uk/gallery/albums/u...%20LHS.jpg

(Eater's photo from another thread ) 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

Wed Nov 22 2023 7:31pm

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