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andrew kennedy



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Fuel Pre Heater problem

2006 Sport. The fuel Pre Heater has been misbehaving so on the last service the electrical supply was disconnected. However I am getting signs of fuel spillage when parking up after a drive. Perhaps I should be looking to block its fuel supply off?!? I have been quoted £888.00 for a replacement Pre Heater!!!! Andrew Kennedy

Post #622460 Sat Mar 05 2022 8:23am
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riverblanche



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Hi,

take it the FBH you would be better off trying to get it fixed than disconnecting as it helps the engine get up to and stay at temp, have a look over on D3 as a WHOLE section on about the FBH Exclamation

they can be stripped and cleaned, if you have a possible fuel leak check the supply pipe near to the FBH it goes hard and cracks easy fix to change that.

you can spend many hours playing with them mind Big Cry

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Post #622481 Sat Mar 05 2022 9:03pm
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andrew kennedy



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Many thanks riverblanche for feed back. Could you explain your suggestion " have a look over on D3" Not sure what that refers to? Understand your point about better to have the Fuel Pre-Heater working. I don't feel confident enough to strip the unit down myself but hopefully after looking at the section you are suggesting I look at, that might change! Andrew Kennedy

Post #622491 Sun Mar 06 2022 10:33am
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Andy K



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https://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/webasto-fue...-vf96.html

Post #622492 Sun Mar 06 2022 10:38am
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andrew kennedy



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Thanks Andy K. I've looked at the information on the link you gave me........trying to sort out what might be the problem is above my capability. I'm coming over to the UK in May and will purchase a new Pre-Heater. Andrew Kennedy

Post #622498 Sun Mar 06 2022 11:40am
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Andy K



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1. Where is the fuel spillage ?

2. Are all 3? of its electric connectors, removed ?

3. There is a joint near the wheel arch which supplies fuel to the heater, maybe that ? Has been known to fail.

4. Fuel leak unrelated the FBH ?

5. That's a lot of investment for a new heater

Post #622506 Sun Mar 06 2022 2:31pm
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andrew kennedy



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Andy - No not all electrical connections have been separated. Looking in from the top, only the one on the top left has been taken out? Tomorrow I will look at the pipe and exactly where the leak seems to be coming from. Andrew Kennedy

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The big connector should be removed if it’s faulty. From memory

Post #622511 Sun Mar 06 2022 5:31pm
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riverblanche



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Hi

as Andy shows Thumbs Up from the main RRS forum page if you have a look at the bottom of the page there are also the other forums for D3, FL2, epokes, FFRR ect. The D3 has the thread section as Andys linked

hopefully we are talking about the same part, as its not a Fuel Pre Heater But a Fuel Burning Heater that heats the coolant system Thumbs Up

fuel leak could be the 5-6mm fuel hose that attaches to the FBH they get brittle and split/leak

if you have had problems with it already bit surprised it has not "locked out" already, what problem have you had with it to unplug it?

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Post #622519 Sun Mar 06 2022 8:30pm
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andrew kennedy



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Hi riverblanche. Thanks for the input!! You are quite right, it's the Fuel Burning Heater that's causing the problem! The problem being in the cold weather it can omit a tremendous amount of smoke and leaves a deposit of unburned fuel on the 'ground emanating form its exhaust pipe. I purchased a used one from a later model from a breaker in the UK. Total cost was £84.00 with postage plus import duty - it didn't work so the original one was put back (there isn't a fuel leak, I think it was just a residue of fuel in the system when the old one was put back). At present the the electrical connection is disconnected. I have had the car (2006 Sport) since new. It hasn't done 100,000 miles yet and I'm keen to keep it in good order - if I have to buy a new Burner I will but is you have any suggestions as to what I can do to free up or clean it out........do please let me know. Andrew Kennedy

Post #622543 Mon Mar 07 2022 10:02am
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Andy K



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If the replacement was from a later model, maybe you need to swap the PCB over.

Ask them over on D3

Post #622547 Mon Mar 07 2022 12:18pm
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andrew kennedy



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Unfortunately Andy the second hand one was binned after finding it didn't work. James Barrington is the The Land Rover garage over here. He is extremely knowable and he could see before they put the second hand one on that it looked as though it wasn't going to work - overheated at some time. I'm temped to connect the original one up in this cold weather but if its spitting out unburned fuel...possible dangerous? Andrew Kennedy

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I had the same issue with mine,, spitting out excess fuel from the exhaust. I unplugged all of the cables from it to disable it as the weather at the time was getting warmer. I managed to get a new set of seals then took it out and partially stripped it down,, didn't want to dismantle the electrode etc as some of the washers on the burner cup are not available to buy,,, and are very fragile. Settled for cleaning out the burner cup and Petit all back together and after a couple of false starts it's worked fine since. If that hadn't of worked I was going to buy a new burner module which is basically the heart of the unit,,,, I think it was Rimmer bros that have them at £150 or thereabouts. This gives you a new fuel cup, ignition electrode, sensor. Other thing to make sure is that the bowl is not choked with soot / carbon as this stops the unit from burning properly.
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Post #622566 Mon Mar 07 2022 9:43pm
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riverblanche



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Hi,

did a quick search on the D3 forum for you and this is worth reading
mentions the the thinks we have suggested already, plus more explanations Thumbs Up

https://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/fbh-aspirat...ak+exhaust

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Post #622567 Mon Mar 07 2022 10:24pm
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andrew kennedy



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gogsy1956 wrote:
I had the same issue with mine,, spitting out excess fuel from the exhaust. I unplugged all of the cables from it to disable it as the weather at the time was getting warmer. I managed to get a new set of seals then took it out and partially stripped it down,, didn't want to dismantle the electrode etc as some of the washers on the burner cup are not available to buy,,, and are very fragile. Settled for cleaning out the burner cup and Petit all back together and after a couple of false starts it's worked fine since. If that hadn't of worked I was going to buy a new burner module which is basically the heart of the unit,,,, I think it was Rimmer bros that have them at £150 or thereabouts. This gives you a new fuel cup, ignition electrode, sensor. Other thing to make sure is that the bowl is not choked with soot / carbon as this stops the unit from burning properly.
Nothing to stop you plugging yours in and fire it up from the remote to see if it lights.


Thanks for the info!!!! I think I'll take out fuse 28 and get my local LL guy have a look at the various post. Andrew Kennedy

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