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Zilch

Member Since: 20 Mar 2006
Location: Sydney, sometimes the Whitsundays
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2010 Range Rover Sport 3.0 TDV6 HSE Fuji White

Ineos Grenadier reveal

looks like the first reveal pictures are up for the new Grenadier.. still quite a while away from being
available

https://ineosgrenadier.com/reveal Another Pommie Bar Steward down under

MY20 Defender 110 SE P400 Eiger/Ebony
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Wed Jul 01 2020 4:41am

naks

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Location: Stellenbosch
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Wed Jul 01 2020 7:09am

naks

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2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear
2015 Range Rover Sport Supercharged V8 HSE Dynamic

Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9
Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO
Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ

Wed Jul 01 2020 7:10am

DrRob

Member Since: 23 Feb 2011
Location: Hampshire
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A Defender humped a G-Wagen Visitor from fullfatrr.com
* GONE. 2012 RR Sport HSE SDV6 Orkney Grey. Now being piloted by RRSTDV8
* GONE: 2011 4.4 TDV8 Full Fat. Amazing piece of kit.
* Current. 1974 Lightweight 2.25L petrol. Old skool
* GONE. Freelander GS TD4 Manual MY2013. Orkney Grey with privacy, cold and clearview packs, armrests (a must!) and a spoiler.
* GONE. Range Rover Classic '93 200Tdi Factory fit
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Wed Jul 01 2020 7:15am

Zilch

Member Since: 20 Mar 2006
Location: Sydney, sometimes the Whitsundays
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Another Pommie Bar Steward down under

MY20 Defender 110 SE P400 Eiger/Ebony
MY10 3.0 RRS TDv6 Fuji/Ebony/Anigre

Wed Jul 01 2020 8:09am

RRT

Member Since: 26 Mar 2018
Location: South Coast
Posts: 251

Isn't this what the new Defender should have been?

Priced more realistically as well. MY17 RRS 4.4d V8 Autobiography - Aintree Green (also referred to on Topix as British Racing Green)

Wed Jul 01 2020 10:21am

timhum

Member Since: 06 Mar 2017
Location: Suffolk
Posts: 389

According to the Autocar report its not available for another 18 months and drives like a Jeep Wrangler on the road, prices from £40k.

Tim Tim
RRS sold and replaced with a Skoda Kodiaq after appalling RR Dealer experience and LR inability to supply new cars in any sort of reasonable time frame..

Wed Jul 01 2020 6:51pm

Jjvd21

Member Since: 20 Dec 2011
Location: Chicago
Posts: 241

Ineos Grenadier design meeting:

Designer: should we include bumper styling like the G Wagon?
CEO: Yes
Designer: should we include a body shape like the Defender?
CEO: Yes
Designer: should we ...
CEO: YES, just include them all! 2020 SVR / R.I.P. 2019 SVR / 2016 D4 Landmark / 2005 D3 HSE

Thu Jul 02 2020 2:30am

Zilch

Member Since: 20 Mar 2006
Location: Sydney, sometimes the Whitsundays
Posts: 2835

Quote:
Isn't this what the new Defender should have been?

i think it is what the purists / series / original defender owners wanted.. but it most probably did not play to
what LR wanted from the vehicle in regard to attracting new customers and markets. In addition with the
BMW plant and Auto, i assume it will not be as easy to fix as many of the old Defender owners wanted,
no modern vehicle is

Quote:
Priced more realistically as well.

From a price perspective it seems comparable to the new Defender, so hardly cheaper. I do wish them well,
there will be a market for it.. but i believe many of the purists who run older land rovers may find it is not
the cheap utility/alternative they thought it would be Another Pommie Bar Steward down under

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Thu Jul 02 2020 2:31am

Eaters

Member Since: 11 Apr 2016
Location: East Sussex
Posts: 1540

2008 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Zermatt Silver

RRT wrote:
Isn't this what the new Defender should have been?

Priced more realistically as well.

Whilst I don't consider myself a purist, I do think that the new Defender seems to have strayed too close to others in the LR range.

But the thing I can't get my head around is that they didn't include a pick-up truck variant. You only have to look around to see that there is a significant market for them - Navara, Hilux etc. Or have I missed something Robin
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Thu Jul 02 2020 7:08am

RRSTDV8

Member Since: 12 Aug 2011
Location: Northamptonshire
Posts: 8991

2012 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Orkney Grey

THe reason LR haven't done a pick up version of the new Defender is because it doesn't have a ladder frame chassis. If you cut the top off the rear of the new Defender, the thing will just want to fold up/crumple.

They'd have to put an awful lot of extra metal in the lower panels to make it structurally strong enough. 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

Thu Jul 02 2020 7:36am

Eaters

Member Since: 11 Apr 2016
Location: East Sussex
Posts: 1540

Ah - thanks RRSDTDV8. Then I think that's a fundamental flaw in their strategy! Robin
2008 Range Rover Sport TDV8
Gone:
Jaguar S-Type V8 4.2 Sport
MGZTT 190 2.5

Thu Jul 02 2020 7:52am

RRSTDV8

Member Since: 12 Aug 2011
Location: Northamptonshire
Posts: 8991

Their strategy is "premium and luxury SUVs", not "things a builder might buy". They're not interested in the utility market anymore, they're interested in wealthy people buying expensive status items.

The flaw in their strategy is more likely to be that in the next couple of years many people won't be chucking £1000/month at a shiny new LR because they'll be worried about redundancies etc. 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

Thu Jul 02 2020 8:49am

RRT

Member Since: 26 Mar 2018
Location: South Coast
Posts: 251

Having sold Japanese vehicles in West Africa, whilst a relatively small marketplace, probably 90% of the vehicles we sold were 4x4s (generally sold to businesses rather than individuals)and the double-cab pick up was by far the best seller. MY17 RRS 4.4d V8 Autobiography - Aintree Green (also referred to on Topix as British Racing Green)

Fri Jul 03 2020 7:32am

Camelrock

Member Since: 31 Aug 2013
Location: North Yorkshire
Posts: 1003

2008 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Tangiers Orange

Still think it looks like a 1970’s throwback, keep it ! 2008 G4 RRSport TDV8 current
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Sat May 08 2021 1:56pm

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