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Eaters

Member Since: 11 Apr 2016
Location: East Sussex
Posts: 1538

2008 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Zermatt Silver

Special Programs Off then Engine System then Transmission

Hi All

My baby has been good as gold - especially during lock down as it hasn't gone very far

On the odd occasions I have taken it around the block, upon returning home, I have noticed it sometimes refused to go into Access Mode, where I like to keep it if I'm not planning to use it for a while. It comes up with Special Programs Unavailable (or similar).

Today, however, took a trip to Hastings for some fresh fish. On the way back it suddenly went into Very Limp Mode with "Engine System Fault" displayed. No other warnings or lights or anything. It would not do more than 40mph on the flat and there were some quite shallow hills that I thought I might not get to the top of. Really slow! Took an age to get to 30mph even on the flat. No smoke or any funny noises (but see below*) and fuel consumption seems normal. Incomplete display on the 4X4 screen, Just the basics but with no data.

I managed to make it home and turned it off. Switching back on and it says "Transmission Fault". I left it for a while and then tried it again. All perfectly normal as if nothing had ever happened. Haven't taken it out any great distance as Green Flag are due imminently.

Back to that noise *. Have noticed on recent short trips that there is a sort of low groaning from the engine bay somewhere (only just audible) as you start gentle/normal acceleration from junctions etc.. The noise gets lower in tone as the car increases in speed. I first thought turbo a but would have thought that it would be noisier the more wellie you gave it but this was not the case. Transmission???

Wouldn't it be nice of this turned out to be a bad earth somewhere or something like that - perhaps in view of the very dry weather, and lack of use....

Don't know! Perhaps its time to buy a IID BT??? Any thoughts? Robin
2008 Range Rover Sport TDV8
Gone:
Jaguar S-Type V8 4.2 Sport
MGZTT 190 2.5

Tue Jun 02 2020 1:12pm

Eaters

Member Since: 11 Apr 2016
Location: East Sussex
Posts: 1538

An update. Westboune Motors arrived; checked out the car and can find nothing wrong and no fault codes stored. Also the car is behaving itself still although I haven't been courageous enough to take it for a long run yet.

I can't believe that the 4X4 display, engine, transmission and stability control have all gone at once. Has to be a sensor or electrical gremlin somewhere. I suspect that the breakdown truck's code reader does not go into the depths that a pucker LR or IID one can. So, fingers crossed I can get it the 10 miles to my indie in the next day or so for them to stick their box of tricks onto it and then we'll see - I hope Robin
2008 Range Rover Sport TDV8
Gone:
Jaguar S-Type V8 4.2 Sport
MGZTT 190 2.5

Tue Jun 02 2020 3:08pm

RRSTDV8

Member Since: 12 Aug 2011
Location: Northamptonshire
Posts: 8980

2012 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Orkney Grey

Battery ok? Alternator ok? Earth connections?

Refusing to go in to access height can be a sign of an exhaust valve misbehaving in the suspension compressor, especially if it goes to off road height when asked to go to access height. 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

Tue Jun 02 2020 3:48pm

Stevepd

Member Since: 22 May 2017
Location: Wiltshire
Posts: 1251

2006 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Cairns Blue

I used to get the Special Programmes unavailable when the battery was on its last legs. 2006 2.7 TDV6 HSE in Cairns Blue.

Tue Jun 02 2020 6:15pm

jason-nike

Member Since: 08 Nov 2013
Location: sussex
Posts: 207

On our last Range Rover we lost all power and car went to limp mode, anything below 2500rpm it was sluggish above that it was fine, turned out it was the EGR valves which I blanked off and then it was fine, not sure if you can blank yours off tho.
As your in East Sussex I would try Landrover Man at East Hoathly (Thatched Garage), always had great, honest service from them, never had a problem with them, they would diagnose issue for you

Tue Jun 02 2020 6:47pm

Col

Member Since: 02 Sep 2012
Location: Hawkes Bay NZ
Posts: 4971

2013 Range Rover Sport Supercharged Autobiography Santorini Black

My previous sport used to do that occasionally when left, simply the battery got low and a good run always sorted it.

Cheers
Col

Tue Jun 02 2020 9:06pm

erickwan

Member Since: 27 Mar 2016
Location: P Jaya
Posts: 138

It's an annual event.........usually brake light switch.

Wed Jun 03 2020 3:23am

1richard1

Member Since: 10 Sep 2019
Location: oldbury
Posts: 178

2007 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Stornoway Grey

I go for the battery especially as its not been driven, give her a good run to charge it.

Wed Jun 03 2020 5:21am

Eaters

Member Since: 11 Apr 2016
Location: East Sussex
Posts: 1538

Thanks for all the thoughts and suggestions guys. Lets pick up a few of those so that others reading this later may find it useful.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LAND-ROVER-DISC...ef8e67bc38

Thanks once again for all the thoughts. I might still take the risk and try and get it to my indie sometime today for a code read - if they've got time Robin
2008 Range Rover Sport TDV8
Gone:
Jaguar S-Type V8 4.2 Sport
MGZTT 190 2.5

Wed Jun 03 2020 6:36am

Eaters

Member Since: 11 Apr 2016
Location: East Sussex
Posts: 1538

jason-nike wrote:

As your in East Sussex I would try Landrover Man at East Hoathly (Thatched Garage), always had great, honest service from them, never had a problem with them, they would diagnose issue for you

Yes jason-nike, I have used them before. In fact they installed my remote control FBH unit and did a good job. However I have since found Groombridges in Heathfield who are first class and also provide a free courtesy car whilst they play around with my car. Very convenient Robin
2008 Range Rover Sport TDV8
Gone:
Jaguar S-Type V8 4.2 Sport
MGZTT 190 2.5

Wed Jun 03 2020 6:40am

Eaters

Member Since: 11 Apr 2016
Location: East Sussex
Posts: 1538

1richard1 wrote:
I go for the battery especially as its not been driven, give her a good run to charge it.

Good thought but the issue arose after a run to Hastings - a run of 26 miles and about 55 mins. Just trundling along on the outskirts of Hastings when "bong" warning noise and the suspension warning indicator lights up orange. I think no great worries as it'll probably go when I stop in Hastings and restart. Then it went to red. So I stopped to read up on it in the handbook. That says;

"amber means a fault has been detected but vehicle an still be driven normally"
It goes on to say:

"If the lamp flashed red, a serious suspension fault has been detected and the vehicle should be driven carefully until qualified assistance can be obtained"
The lamp didn't flash - it was a solid red. But I turned off the engine, waited a couple of minutes and then restarted and it was all back to normal. Robin
2008 Range Rover Sport TDV8
Gone:
Jaguar S-Type V8 4.2 Sport
MGZTT 190 2.5

Wed Jun 03 2020 6:53am

erickwan

Member Since: 27 Mar 2016
Location: P Jaya
Posts: 138

The part where you switch off, re-start and everything is normal until the next hiccup is typical brake light switch.

Symptoms in my case:
"Special programs not available" message - suspension light flags on the dash
"Transmission fault. HDC not available"
Engine will not accelerate beyond 30mph
Switch off and on, everything goes back to normal.

Happens every 1-2 years.

Wed Jun 03 2020 7:17am

RRSTDV8

Member Since: 12 Aug 2011
Location: Northamptonshire
Posts: 8980

Eaters wrote:
Thanks for all the thoughts and suggestions guys. Lets pick up a few of those so that others reading this later may find it useful.
[list]Battery - is about a year old but I'm not ruling it out. I do have a CTEK which I use occasionally if it goes flat (which it has done at least once) including the rejuvenation programme

If it's been flat a couple of times, properly flat, then it might have a weak cell. That will cause problems. I had a battery that lost a cell, my CTEK would run and say "it's charged", put a meter on it and it's 12.7V. Put a load on it and it dropped to <11V.

If you change the brake pedal switch, be careful. There is a procedure involved - do a search as there are some good write ups on here. It's an easy enough job but there's something you mustn't do before it's fitted. Can't remember what but a search will show it. 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

Wed Jun 03 2020 7:24am

Eaters

Member Since: 11 Apr 2016
Location: East Sussex
Posts: 1538

jason-nike wrote:
On our last Range Rover we lost all power and car went to limp mode, anything below 2500rpm it was sluggish above that it was fine, turned out it was the EGR valves which I blanked off and then it was fine, not sure if you can blank yours off tho.
As your in East Sussex I would try Landrover Man at East Hoathly (Thatched Garage), always had great, honest service from them, never had a problem with them, they would diagnose issue for you

Just another guilty admission - I actually drove straight past the Thatched Garage (Doh!!!). I was so anxious to nurse the car home that I totally blanked the thought of calling in there. And as you see if you watch the video below, the slight incline just after the Garage shows how bad limp mode really is. For those who haven't experienced it, you feel like the end of the world has come - well sort of. The "hill" is hardly one at all but you will see the way the speed just drops off. And there's nothing you can do about it. You're just willing the car to make it to the top!

&feature=youtu.be

Its not easy to see on the video but as I pass the Thatched Garage I am doing 38mph and by the end of the clip I am doing 33mph. And that's flat out! Robin
2008 Range Rover Sport TDV8
Gone:
Jaguar S-Type V8 4.2 Sport
MGZTT 190 2.5

Wed Jun 03 2020 7:43am

Col

Member Since: 02 Sep 2012
Location: Hawkes Bay NZ
Posts: 4971

Don't release the plunger before installing the switch, when you turn the switch to locate it that will release it.

Cheers
Col

Wed Jun 03 2020 7:45am

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