I ditched LR 12 months ago and bought a RX450h F Sport with premier pack.

Never regretted it for a moment and have managed 36mpg over 10,000miles. The drone from the CV box when accelerating hard was the only drawback but you do get use to it.

Distance to service hit zero today just over 5 months and 8k miles since it was serviced , so I have drawn a sample of oil off and will send it off for analysis tomorrow , results take 3-4 days they say so as the say watch this space ! MY24 Dynamic SE,MY21 HSE Silver, MY20 SQ7, MY 18 RRS HSE Dynamic , MY 16 RRS Autobiography now gone & MY 2005 Discovery 3 HSE that I will be buried in !

The Lab rung to give me a heads up on the results , waiting on an email to give all the results but basically oil dilution is about 10% and there are traces of iron and Aluminium in the oil above desired levels but not crazy high so as to say engine failure imminent MY24 Dynamic SE,MY21 HSE Silver, MY20 SQ7, MY 18 RRS HSE Dynamic , MY 16 RRS Autobiography now gone & MY 2005 Discovery 3 HSE that I will be buried in !

Called in at my dealer last week and they said If the early service light comes on they onsite test the oil !!!!!! And if it over 10% they Change the oil but at 10% they reset the computer ????? What do you all think about this

Who do you guys use to test the oil as I would like to test mine ?

I live in Norwich.

Cheers.

Tom. Indus Silver / Santorini Black Roof MY16 Autobiography Dynamic Hybrid 354bhp. 22" Style 504 Alloys. Lunar Grey / Ebony Seats and Interior. Surround Cameras, Meridian Signature Reference sound system 1700watts, Adaptive cruise & Queue Assist, Blind spot closing vehicle , Adaptive Xenon Headlights, 4zone Climate, infra-red reflective glass, deployable side steps, and a few more extras .......

On topic of DPF generated issues, and resulting consequences on the engine, engine oil dilution and drive system failure I found this instructional video from Landrover in the U.S that covers the early model L494's to MY15 I believe. In my MY16 I just got the 6.1% triggered "Service Due" message above a spanner and the need for an oil change.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeRyBZfJnvc

How you are meant to follow those guidelines if you are City bound I don't know.. a buddy of mine had to drive to Crawley and back from South London on a weekly basis on the M23 to get up enough constant speed to "clear" the DPF that was clogging at a regular rate. He's exiting the brand soon too..

btw I recently cancelled my LR extended warranty as I switch cars, there are a few days of the RRS not being covered and the warranty company asked if it was wise that I have a period of uncovered RRS ownership "just in case the engine failed"... good to see they had faith too.....  P400e HSE Portofino Blue and Ivory Seats.. it's like a yacht!!
Lexus traded in ..a total piece of crap
Boldly now acquired - a Lexus RX 450hL
BoldlyGone...Sep 15 MY16 RRS SDV6, HSE, Barolo Black, Espresso/Almond interior.. Best car ever & Drop dead gorgeous... sadly with fuel dilution headaches that became intolerable
Arrived 2014. Oct - Lemoned March 2015- RRS SDV6 HSE
Boldly Gone = Sold for 14k via Pistonheads - 2006 TDV6 SE Buck Blue/Almond int

Been-and-dunit wrote:

Called in at my dealer last week and they said If the early service light comes on they onsite test the oil !!!!!! And if it over 10% they Change the oil but at 10% they reset the computer ????? What do you all think about this

In my experience Dealers do NOT do a proper quantitative oil analysis - they simply interrogate the ECU to see what the algorithm tells them the oil dilution figure is. i.e. it is a calculated figure.


I was told my oil was "OK" by the Dealer after the third premature oil service light, and yet my own, proper, (Millers oils) analysis showed 8% dilution, a figure Millers considered dangerous.

I had a significant argument with the supplying Dealer after that, the gist of which I will not repeat here, but which lead directly to my dropping both them and the brand as soon as I could. I will never accept being told bare faced lies. MY2016 HSE D SDV6 - gone due to fuel dilution problems.

By the age of 50 you have the face you deserve - George Orwell.

BoldlyGo wrote:

On topic of DPF generated issues, and resulting consequences on the engine, engine oil dilution and drive system failure I found this instructional video from Landrover in the U.S that covers the early model L494's to MY15 I believe. In my MY16 I just got the 6.1% triggered "Service Due" message above a spanner and the need for an oil change.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeRyBZfJnvc

How you are meant to follow those guidelines if you are City bound I don't know.. a buddy of mine had to drive to Crawley and back from South London on a weekly basis on the M23 to get up enough constant speed to "clear" the DPF that was clogging at a regular rate. He's exiting the brand soon too..

btw I recently cancelled my LR extended warranty as I switch cars, there are a few days of the RRS not being covered and the warranty company asked if it was wise that I have a period of uncovered RRS ownership "just in case the engine failed"... good to see they had faith too.....

thomas brown wrote:

Who do you guys use to test the oil as I would like to test mine ?

I live in Norwich.

Cheers.

Tom.

Hi Chips.

Thanks for the link I guess it's best to go for the £59.99 option test as it does everything ?

Or is it as long as it has the oil dilution test in it that's all that matters ?

Cheers.

Tom. Indus Silver / Santorini Black Roof MY16 Autobiography Dynamic Hybrid 354bhp. 22" Style 504 Alloys. Lunar Grey / Ebony Seats and Interior. Surround Cameras, Meridian Signature Reference sound system 1700watts, Adaptive cruise & Queue Assist, Blind spot closing vehicle , Adaptive Xenon Headlights, 4zone Climate, infra-red reflective glass, deployable side steps, and a few more extras .......

My RRS doesn't have a dipstick, how do I obtain an oil sample to send off for analysis?
thanks
Tim Tim
RRS sold and replaced with a Skoda Kodiaq after appalling RR Dealer experience and LR inability to supply new cars in any sort of reasonable time frame..

wilf wrote:

In my experience Dealers do NOT do a proper quantitative oil analysis - they simply interrogate the ECU to see what the algorithm tells them the oil dilution figure is. i.e. it is a calculated figure.


I was told my oil was "OK" by the Dealer after the third premature oil service light, and yet my own, proper, (Millers oils) analysis showed 8% dilution, a figure Millers considered dangerous.

I had a significant argument with the supplying Dealer after that, the gist of which I will not repeat here, but which lead directly to my dropping both them and the brand as soon as I could. I will never accept being told bare faced lies.

Exactly true

It suits many LR dealers to try to convince you that they know more than you just to fob you off. This is why it is important that customers understand the issues, not just for now but for in the future beyond warranty if your car is a keeper. Being able to attack the dealer back with knowledge usually wins the day if not the future.

Don’t forget that really useful part of LR extended warranties, “All known issues excluded”

Yet they (Speth etc) still try to lay the blame for all LR’s current problems on driving style, Brexit etc rather than look into their own critical engineering designs & failures, some of which were voiced by engineers, and subsequently ignored by management at the expense of driving forward sales.

Great traditional cars spoiled by insane management, the present could well be the start of “what goes around comes around” as far as LR’s future is concerned.

The engineering architecture of Jaguar is somewhat different to LR as far as engine/DPF layout is concerned, hence the thoughts about a future split between Jaguar and LR in some circles.

timhum wrote:

My RRS doesn't have a dipstick, how do I obtain an oil sample to send off for analysis?
thanks
Tim

Hi Timhum.

If you lift the bonnet up looking at the front of the Range Rover on the left hand side of the engine is a pipe sticking up, this is how you change the oil by sucking it out from here.

You will need some sort of siringe and small pipe to fit down it to suck it out ,

Cheers.

Tom. Indus Silver / Santorini Black Roof MY16 Autobiography Dynamic Hybrid 354bhp. 22" Style 504 Alloys. Lunar Grey / Ebony Seats and Interior. Surround Cameras, Meridian Signature Reference sound system 1700watts, Adaptive cruise & Queue Assist, Blind spot closing vehicle , Adaptive Xenon Headlights, 4zone Climate, infra-red reflective glass, deployable side steps, and a few more extras .......

Yup - a big syringe and some flexi rubber tubing was how I got my sample out.

Oh and Millers Oils do a good analysis service Send you containers and labelling and all. MY2016 HSE D SDV6 - gone due to fuel dilution problems.

By the age of 50 you have the face you deserve - George Orwell.