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BoldlyGo



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Had an early oil service oil dilution incident.. covered for free by dealership (oil change is c £200 from what I heard).. looked a bit into the topic.. found this on a Total website:

"For this reason, it is crucial to use a properly formulated, high-quality engine oil capable of withstanding dilution by fuel "


So need to check that out, but also on their website https://www.lubricants.total.com/fuel-dilu...nd-effects

It highlights 'frequent stop/starts' as a key issue..... so i'm turning off my 'stop/start' function as the engine will interpret that as lots of little journeys...and that seems to be a much commented upon cause.. as does in-frequent long journeys, excessive acceleration and accelerating harshly before engine has time to warm up..

Nearly all the main manufacturer forums are talking about oil dilution fyi, and have been doing so for years.. P400e HSE Portofino Blue and Ivory Seats.. it's like a yacht!!
Lexus traded in ..a total piece of crap
Boldly now acquired - a Lexus RX 450hL
BoldlyGone...Sep 15 MY16 RRS SDV6, HSE, Barolo Black, Espresso/Almond interior.. Best car ever & Drop dead gorgeous... sadly with fuel dilution headaches that became intolerable
Arrived 2014. Oct - Lemoned March 2015- RRS SDV6 HSE
Boldly Gone = Sold for 14k via Pistonheads - 2006 TDV6 SE Buck Blue/Almond int

Post #567174 Wed Oct 17 2018 10:42am
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IRBails



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A good article which reinforces my decision to change more I also turn the stop start off, for different reason. M16 SVD8 ,4.4 HSE with a few extras, Sold R50 , Wife SQ5 , BMW R1200GSW.

Post #567207 Wed Oct 17 2018 9:21pm
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Chips



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How so you disable the stop start ? MY24 Dynamic SE,MY21 HSE Silver, MY20 SQ7, MY 18 RRS HSE Dynamic , MY 16 RRS Autobiography now gone & MY 2005 Discovery 3 HSE that I will be buried in !

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Barryp



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Press the button on the centre consul, but you have to do it at each start. I don't think that there is a permanent solution.
Barry 2017 Range Rover Sport TDV6 L494 SE Fuji White
2011 Range Rover Sport SDV6 L320 SE Fuji White Loved but GONE
2010 TRAKKA Motorhome Fiat Ducato GONE (What a dud, don't buy one)
2006 Discovery 3 SE TDV6 Automatic Chawton White/Ebony. Loved but GONE
2006 BMW X5 diesel White/Charcoal, Bought new, Gone after 12 years! Was Excellent.
Ex Member Range Rover Club NSW

Post #567250 Thu Oct 18 2018 9:13pm
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Aaron92



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Just putting my 2pennys worth in working at an Indy my boss had a 2016 rrs and now has an 18 plate rrshe always turns the stop start off and we’ve always gone 12 months on the service with no early service warning, one thing I will say we do a service contract for a company with probably 30+ fiesta diesel vans and there always coming in for early oil changes due to oil dilutin so I don’t think the range rovers are as problematic as we think, working in an Indy the first cars with dpf’s where always coming in blocked etc now a days it seems more oil dilution is the problem I think the manufactures have gone more fuel injection early on to keep them clean at the cost of oil

Post #567292 Fri Oct 19 2018 8:04pm
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BoldlyGo



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Lots of good advice and common sense that will help us all manage this apparent 'problem' https://youtu.be/nMX94zarLs4
8.57 onwards if you want to go straight to the point P400e HSE Portofino Blue and Ivory Seats.. it's like a yacht!!
Lexus traded in ..a total piece of crap
Boldly now acquired - a Lexus RX 450hL
BoldlyGone...Sep 15 MY16 RRS SDV6, HSE, Barolo Black, Espresso/Almond interior.. Best car ever & Drop dead gorgeous... sadly with fuel dilution headaches that became intolerable
Arrived 2014. Oct - Lemoned March 2015- RRS SDV6 HSE
Boldly Gone = Sold for 14k via Pistonheads - 2006 TDV6 SE Buck Blue/Almond int

Post #567294 Fri Oct 19 2018 9:27pm
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Chips



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Barryp wrote:
Press the button on the centre consul, but you have to do it at each start. I don't think that there is a permanent solution.
Barry


What button is that then ? I can't seem to see one relating to switching off the stop start function

Edit: founf it now , looking in the wrong place ! MY24 Dynamic SE,MY21 HSE Silver, MY20 SQ7, MY 18 RRS HSE Dynamic , MY 16 RRS Autobiography now gone & MY 2005 Discovery 3 HSE that I will be buried in !

Post #567344 Sat Oct 20 2018 8:26pm
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Barryp



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Mines a 2017 and its the bottom right hand press button behind the gearstick.
Look up your handbook its all there.
Regards
Barry 2017 Range Rover Sport TDV6 L494 SE Fuji White
2011 Range Rover Sport SDV6 L320 SE Fuji White Loved but GONE
2010 TRAKKA Motorhome Fiat Ducato GONE (What a dud, don't buy one)
2006 Discovery 3 SE TDV6 Automatic Chawton White/Ebony. Loved but GONE
2006 BMW X5 diesel White/Charcoal, Bought new, Gone after 12 years! Was Excellent.
Ex Member Range Rover Club NSW

Post #567348 Sat Oct 20 2018 9:36pm
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IRBails



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Interesting article

https://www.energy.gov/sites/prod/files/20...aswamy.pdf M16 SVD8 ,4.4 HSE with a few extras, Sold R50 , Wife SQ5 , BMW R1200GSW.

Post #567352 Sat Oct 20 2018 10:22pm
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thomas brown



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Cheers for this irbails Thumbs Up

Some very good charts on here.

I know it's possible on early cars removing the guts of the dpf and getting it welding tigged back up as I have done it on my Mrs car which is a 2011 Kia soul tempest which we have had from new and never had a issue yet.

But on the newer dpf's I think they measure if there is too much flow which will bring up a fault anyway Censored but my Mrs car has a sensor each side and never throws up any faults !

Just wondering if we removed the dpf's guts on our sports would this cause any faults ? If it doesn't it means it would never go into regen as it is never blocked this causing no oil dilution from the extra fuel which is required for a regen.
But not sure if this would effect the add blue further down the exhaust system with too much flow Rolling Eyes

Just to let you know the emmison levels on my Mrs car are clear on Mot's, but Mot's emmison tests are very vague anyway.

I think I maybe temped in time to try this on my 2016 Hybrid.

Anybody else done this yet or thinking of it ?

Tom. Indus Silver / Santorini Black Roof MY16 Autobiography Dynamic Hybrid 354bhp. 22" Style 504 Alloys. Lunar Grey / Ebony Seats and Interior. Surround Cameras, Meridian Signature Reference sound system 1700watts, Adaptive cruise & Queue Assist, Blind spot closing vehicle , Adaptive Xenon Headlights, 4zone Climate, infra-red reflective glass, deployable side steps, and a few more extras .......

Post #567365 Sun Oct 21 2018 9:24am
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Tyrefitter



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United Kingdom 2013 Range Rover Sport SDV6 Autobiography Fuji White

Tom,,you might want to read this section in the mot manual.
8.2.2 Compression ignition engine emissions
https://www.mot-testing.service.gov.uk/doc...ection_8.2

Andy. Andy.
21 Ford Ranger
Gone but not forgotten
Focus RS Red Edition
2015 RRS AB Fuji.
2014 RRS SC Santorini
2016 VW Amarok
2014 RRS AB Fuji
2012 RRS Red Edition Fuji
2015 Nissan Navara
2012 RRS SE Santorini
2008 RRS White
2007 RRS Santorino

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thomas brown



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Hi Tyrefitter.

Yea I know these days they are getting stricter on tests. But if you get a coded welder to tig the dpf back up they wouldn't be able to tell it's so neat and better then factory Thumbs Up

I come from the offshore industry and know loads of people who weld so it's easy to get this done. I suppose it comes back down to the tester again which is the main thing !!

It's just getter harder to get through this Censored Engines today are so restricted and performance is killed off.

I always find the emmison results always seem cleaner once you remove all the egr, dpf's and brethers the engine can actually run to it's potential not breathing in all its own rubbish !!

Think we all need sports with flux capacitors to power them Mr. Green

Tom. Indus Silver / Santorini Black Roof MY16 Autobiography Dynamic Hybrid 354bhp. 22" Style 504 Alloys. Lunar Grey / Ebony Seats and Interior. Surround Cameras, Meridian Signature Reference sound system 1700watts, Adaptive cruise & Queue Assist, Blind spot closing vehicle , Adaptive Xenon Headlights, 4zone Climate, infra-red reflective glass, deployable side steps, and a few more extras .......

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IRBails



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The trail of black smoke out the exhaust will be the give away. Also the rear of your car will be dirty and grime laden all the time. M16 SVD8 ,4.4 HSE with a few extras, Sold R50 , Wife SQ5 , BMW R1200GSW.

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Chips



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What's the best way to get a sample of oil out for a lab test ? The dipstick tube (which doesn't have a dipstick !) is too narrow to fit a slim pipe down and I worry if I loosen the drain plug to get a sample the oil will likely get contaminated MY24 Dynamic SE,MY21 HSE Silver, MY20 SQ7, MY 18 RRS HSE Dynamic , MY 16 RRS Autobiography now gone & MY 2005 Discovery 3 HSE that I will be buried in !

Post #567941 Tue Oct 30 2018 8:49pm
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Tyrefitter



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United Kingdom 2013 Range Rover Sport SDV6 Autobiography Fuji White

You can buy oil extraction pump with a pipe that’s thin enough to got down the tube from eBay,this is what I use.Just make sure the oil is hot,it makes it easier to get out.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Autojack-MFE9-9...2749.l2649

Andy. Andy.
21 Ford Ranger
Gone but not forgotten
Focus RS Red Edition
2015 RRS AB Fuji.
2014 RRS SC Santorini
2016 VW Amarok
2014 RRS AB Fuji
2012 RRS Red Edition Fuji
2015 Nissan Navara
2012 RRS SE Santorini
2008 RRS White
2007 RRS Santorino

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