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Just giving some thought to the V8 oil burner. Thus will surely end up burning as much as the V8 petrol engine at more cost? Be it in the RRS or RR. Maybe great for towing but not for everyday driving, as those who have had trheir td6's chipped there is more power at the expense of mpg?

A lot of the mods are reported to actually increase mpg rather than decrease it. I'd certainly look at the the V8 - the current V6 in non-chipped form can be a little disappointing sometimes performance-wise. 

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Gazzer wrote:

Thanx P. How is the 4S? Is it much better than the 2S?

I think we will end up with a regular size RR as when I explored the both of them y'day, the RR felt such a great car to be in, far more comfy.

G

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MDP wrote:

Gazzer wrote:

So what would you choose if you could do it all again? Supercharged or diesel?
Reason being, we are going to change our P38 early next year and still don't know which would be better.
G

I'd hang on a bit longer - wait for more info on the forthcoming new V8 diesel

Just giving some thought to the V8 oil burner. Thus will surely end up burning as much as the V8 petrol engine at more cost? Be it in the RRS or RR. Maybe great for towing but not for everyday driving, as those who have had trheir td6's chipped there is more power at the expense of mpg?

G

It has to be the RRS Supercharged, stuff the petrol costs, this is the most complete car I have ever found, all the off road ability expected from a Range Rover with near sport car feel if you want to press on abit. Don't forget that it is not just the engine but the whole feel of the car that is different especially with the anti roll system that is standard on the super changed model.

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I really don't think the V8 Diesel will burn any where near as much fuel as the V8 Petrol. Maybe you should look at comparison between Audi A8 Petrol V8 & Diesel V8.

Regards

Peter

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Hi G
I really don't think the V8 Diesel will burn any where near as much fuel as the V8 Petrol. Maybe you should look at comparison between Audi A8 Petrol V8 & Diesel V8.

Regards

Peter

Landrover have never been good at powerful, economical diesel engines though like they are not good at economical petrol engines, I don't think you can compare Audi to LR. I wish we could, Ideally the DV8 needs to be at least 300bhp, do 0-60 in about 8-9 seconds max, have bags of torque and even with spirited and urban driving to return 28mpg minimum. That means that on a run you'd be able to get about 34mpg.

If they can build this, I'd be seriously interested in swapping. Until then I'll stick to the SC or who knows, another brand if it seems even better? Audi's soft roader is out soon isn't it?

You're right, the weight is a big factor, we drive one of the heaviest cars on the road right now!

Land Rovers have never been lightweight cars though and so they know what they are contending with when they select and tweak a diesel engine. It's easy to see what the market is doing and how good the competitors are, so why Landrover cannot react to this with a fantastic diesel engine I have no idea.

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VWs' Touareg V10 diesel compares to the sport/supercharged .......advantage?????.... look at the figures


Power
5.0 V10 TDI (4,921cc): 230kW (313PS) at 3,750 rpm / 750Nm (553 lb ft) torque at 2,000 rpm.

Performance
5.0 V10 TDI auto: 0-60 7.5 seconds; top speed 140mph; combined consumption 12.2 litres/100km (23.2mpg); CO2 emissions 329g/km; Euro 4.

Kerb weight: 2,214 – 2,524kg = VW


Unladen total (EEC Kerb) in Kg.
TD6 Diesel - 2455
Petrol V8 - 2480
Supercharged - 2572 Max Torque 550Nm/3500rpm


So its nearly as heavy as the supercharged - has similar performance ( a lot more torque ) - and does more to the gallon 23.2 compared to the superchargeds 17.8

It would be interesting to see what LR would charge for this if it was ever fitted - you can bet it would cost more than the petrol supercharged!  
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Has anyone had their RRS SC tuned?

DMS are saying they can get 450HP out of it.

Cheers

Rich

rich1231 wrote:

Has anyone had their RRS SC tuned?

DMS are saying they can get 450HP out of it.

Cheers

Rich

Hi Rich,

There are many tuners out there all rushing to develop their products for the Supercharged - from simple re maps to engine overhauls. Overfinch have already launched a 5.0l 500bhp version.

http://www.overfinch.co.uk/?node_id=1.4&am...4f73e38f57

There is also a link to price list in my Gallery:-

http://www.rrsport.co.uk/gallery/displayim...&pos=3

Not cheap  
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Thanks MDP!

Just wait until the V8 arrives...when we get our hands on one it'll definately blow the SC into the weeds!!

If only they could make a diesel sound like a petrol

turbochip wrote:

Just wait until the V8 arrives...when we get our hands on one it'll definately blow the SC into the weeds!!

If only they could make a diesel sound like a petrol

Now there is a challenge. What about a shed load of soundproofing material for a start & a free set of ear muffs  
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Clears throat................. Martin I don't mean to be rude but have you been in a TDv6 lately? Having recently driven a 4.4V8 I can assure you that that there isn't much in it noisewise, so any more noisekilling panels are not necessary and I would say that at motorway speeds the TD is QUIETER than the V8 petrol............ yes the vibrations are noticable when it is idling but engine noise is exceptionally well suppressed, and it is certainly quieter than the TD6 RR. 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
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Tim in Scotland wrote:

Clears throat................. Martin I don't mean to be rude but have you been in a TDv6 lately? Having recently driven a 4.4V8 I can assure you that that there isn't much in it noisewise, so any more noisekilling panels are not necessary and I would say that at motorway speeds the TD is QUIETER than the V8 petrol............ yes the vibrations are noticable when it is idling but engine noise is exceptionally well suppressed, and it is certainly quieter than the TD6 RR.