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Hutch41



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Fuel Question.

I always fill up with Shell V-Power Diesel but it is quite expensive.

I would like to get the opinion of the always helpful members of this forum whether it would be OK to switch to a cheaper supermarket type fuel.

Post #553608 Mon Apr 09 2018 10:10am
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kismet110



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^^^

Supermarket fuel is purchased from the main petroleum companies anyway so I can't see how it would make any difference?

Post #553609 Mon Apr 09 2018 10:22am
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Hutch41



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That's what I suspected ... do you use the cheaper fuel ?

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drdelrrs



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The only difference is the 'brands' add their own particular additives at the depot These additives can increase the 'burn' and help clean injectors (both petrol and diesel). I use Supermarket fuel but every 5/6 refills I use a tank of Shell/ BP.

Post #553615 Mon Apr 09 2018 11:03am
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kismet110



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Hutch41 wrote:
That's what I suspected ... do you use the cheaper fuel ?


I use the supermarket pumps if it's handy at the time but just as often use the regular big petro company forecourts.

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wilchesth



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I always find that buying from my local asda pump gives me less miles to the gallon compared to when I fill in my esso garage where it is usually 2p per litre more expensive. I can get roughly 20 ish miles more on a full tank. Or it might be all in my head Rolling Eyes

Post #553626 Mon Apr 09 2018 12:06pm
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kismet110



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^^^

How many litres does your fuel tank hold? The extra miles may be negated by the extra cost.

Unless of course it's all in your head ... Smile

Post #553628 Mon Apr 09 2018 12:16pm
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Red Arrow



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As has been said above the additive pack in Premium fuel is way better than supermarket fuel - hence why supermarket fuel is cheaper - my advice would be to stick with Premium branded fuel for better MPG and a better all round driving experience .
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kismet110



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^^^

Have to respectfully disagree with that, it's a bit of a myth I think. This is from the article linked below where also it states a recent FB survey showed that 40% of drivers believe 'branded' fuel is better than supermarket:

Our friendly scientist was very clear on his view regarding supermarket fuel. He said the following:

In the UK all pump gasolines and diesels are governed by various national and international standards – notably European and CEN Standards. These require vehicle fuels to conform to minimum world-agreed quality and performance standards. So in Europe supermarket fuel is as good as any.


Also the following:

However, our friendly scientist is far from alone in his opinion. A recent study in The Telegraph on the same subject cited spokesmen from both The RAC and The AA saying much the same, with the AA representative stating that “petrol and diesel fuel quality is governed by the same European standard, whether it is sold at a supermarket in Manchester (or) an independent outside Mevagissey.

https://www.petrolprices.com/news/supermar...e-lowdown/

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Brit Plumber



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Quite often it’s an esso tanker that fills our local Tesco’s. 2019 5.0 SC SVA (Current)
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Post #553672 Mon Apr 09 2018 9:36pm
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Red Arrow



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I work for one of the major fuel and lube companies and know exactly what goes on Thumbs Up

Post #553674 Mon Apr 09 2018 9:52pm
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Eaters



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Let’s just make sure we are comparing like with like. Yes there are standards covering the basic fuel so I can’t see that Tesco standard fuel is any different from Esso standard fuel.

But of course if you buy the premium fuels with additives included by a particular brand, then that is what you’re paying for. And of course the main benefits of the adatives are supposed to be (1) more mpg and (2) better cleaning of injectors etc.

For me, I am more concerned about extending the life of my turbos as much as possible rather than mpg (as if I was too worried about mpg I wouldn’t have bought a VCool so I tend to buy where it’s a reasonable price and convenient, but also add the occasional fuel additive myself - Redex was recently on offer in Tesco grocery shop so I bought a few. Robin
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Post #553677 Mon Apr 09 2018 10:00pm
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Cymruambyth



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I found that on the last couple of cars I`ve had, I`ve had slightly better mpg with Tesco Momentum. If I can`t be bothered going across town to Tesco, I just use normal Shell unleaded.

My Scooby was mapped on V power and wouldn`t run on anything else but that`s a different story! Steve.

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HughN



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kismet110 wrote:
^^^

Have to respectfully disagree with that, it's a bit of a myth I think. This is from the article linked below where also it states a recent FB survey showed that 40% of drivers believe 'branded' fuel is better than supermarket:

Our friendly scientist was very clear on his view regarding supermarket fuel. He said the following:

In the UK all pump gasolines and diesels are governed by various national and international standards – notably European and CEN Standards. These require vehicle fuels to conform to minimum world-agreed quality and performance standards. So in Europe supermarket fuel is as good as any.


Also the following:

However, our friendly scientist is far from alone in his opinion. A recent study in The Telegraph on the same subject cited spokesmen from both The RAC and The AA saying much the same, with the AA representative stating that “petrol and diesel fuel quality is governed by the same European standard, whether it is sold at a supermarket in Manchester (or) an independent outside Mevagissey.

https://www.petrolprices.com/news/supermar...e-lowdown/


I'd read that as all fuels across Europe meet the minimum standards - it doesn't mean the big companies can't include additives to exceed those standards.

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kismet110



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Red Arrow wrote:
I work for one of the major fuel and lube companies and know exactly what goes on Thumbs Up


Can't beat insider knowledge so I will defer to you Thumbs Up

Post #553694 Tue Apr 10 2018 9:44am
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