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Am89

Member Since: 02 Apr 2018
Location: Scotland
Posts: 15

2016 RR Sport HSE

Hi, new to the forum. Never owned an RR before or even a jeep / 4x4. My prev car was a C63. In the market for the new car and the latest gen 2016 RR Is a contender. Looking at a 2016 sport with ivory interior, electric side steps, polished wheels and Brembo calipers. I have a few Q’s.

Is the HSE the top model of the RRS or is there a model above in the sport range - excluding the SVR or supercharged one?

What are the main options I should be looking out for, is the 2016 model the newer 306 bhp engine and is the trans a full auto or twin clutch?

Mon Apr 02 2018 10:01pm

markymarkf

Member Since: 08 May 2017
Location: Essex
Posts: 143

the RRS is a beautiful car and iv'e never regretted buying mine.

as for trim levels these are HSE. HSE Dynamic, Autobiography Dynamic. HSE on its own is classed as the lower spec car and does not come with Terrain response 2

i'm sure someone with more experience can fill you in on the rest. SVR Carbon Edition in Estoril Blue MY 21.5

P400e HSE Dynamic full on black with black pack, Meridian surround sound, Fixed Pano roof.

Past MY17 SDV6 HSE Dynamic Yulong White and ivory leather.

Tue Apr 03 2018 7:52am

RRSTDV8

Member Since: 12 Aug 2011
Location: Northamptonshire
Posts: 8985

2012 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Orkney Grey

As said, in the L494 RRS, HSE is effectively the bottom rung. There was briefly a SE but it didn't last. HSE is a reasonable spec but missed out on the stuff that makes the RRS perform properly both on and off road.

HSE will have just hi range (no low range gears) and basic Terrain Response. The 4wd system is set with more torque to the rear axle in normal conditions. This helps the handling but you don't get Terrain Response dynamic mode or the variable dampers, torque vectoring etc. For those, you want the HSE Dynamic. The Autobiography is Dynamic as standard.

If you just want a comfortable four wheel drive car to commute in and to look good on your drive, the HSE is fine. If you want the full RRS experience, you want a Dynamic (either HSE Dynamic or Autobiography). 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

Tue Apr 03 2018 9:48am

Tim in Scotland

Member Since: 30 May 2005
Location: Driving along in my automobile
Posts: 17476

2013 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Stornoway Grey

Re: 2016 RR Sport HSE

Am89 wrote:
What are the main options I should be looking out for, is the 2016 model the newer 306 bhp engine and is the trans a full auto or twin clutch?

Options to look out for - panoramic roof, either fixed or opening makes a big difference to the interior ambience especially if the interior is all black. Other desirable options - if the car is not to be garaged then the heated steering wheel, park heating / cooling, spare wheel and possibly the hugely expensive at build optional Meridian 1700w sound system ( but don’t pay silly money extra to get it) in 2016MY the OEM Audio isn’t great - adequate but not great so if you find one with the upgrade to the 825w system it is worth having as standard then was a 380w system. Sidesteps are essential for some, but i’m Not a fan of them as I take my RRS offroad and they have been known to catch and damage the car. The Adaptive BiXenon Headlights are worth looking for too as they were not standard. Options to be wary off - the autonomous braking seems to suffer with camera issues and the gesture tailgate option seems never to detect most peoples feet....... also don’t pay over regular RRS prices for any Kahn/Overfinch etc etc personalized versions, the interiors can be downright awful on some, unless you really like acres of Bentley quilt leather....
Only one gearbox has ever been available - they all,come with a ZF torque converter 8 Speed auto, no manual,option at all. And no double clutch. You also get paddle shifters but if the car has had the gearbox ecu upgrade carried out the improvement in performance was quite marked and renders the paddle shift redundant as the kick down was hugely improved after the upgrade. The 3.0ltr SDv6 produces 700nm of torque in the 306hp version which is pretty useful.

As well as the SDv6 3.0ltr HSE/ HSE Dynamic if you really really hunt around you might find an early V6 Petrol Supercharged but they are almost as rare as hens teeth. In 2017 MY there is also an Sd4 2.olitre diesel that you might be interested in but again they were not popular so might prove difficult to find although dealerships put a few on a s demo cars they generally weren’t a hit with customers so you might find a cheap newer SD4 in listings. 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - soon to be replaced
2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

Tue Apr 03 2018 3:04pm

Am89

Member Since: 02 Apr 2018
Location: Scotland
Posts: 15

The RR I’m looking at is my father in laws, spec wise from what I’ve seen is,

HSE Dynamic
Fixed pan roof
Polished wheels
Brembo calipers
Ivory interior w black / blue exterior
Deployable side steps

Not sure if it has heated wheel or adaptive bi xenon headlights - how do I check whether headlights are adaptive or normal?
I’ve been offered the car at px price but it’s a toss up between this and his 2018 X5 M50d - I’ll be taking them both out on the weeeknd for a drive to make a better decision

Tue Apr 03 2018 11:09pm

Am89

Member Since: 02 Apr 2018
Location: Scotland
Posts: 15

What is the difference between the HSE dynamic vs the autobiography?

Tue Apr 03 2018 11:38pm

Am89

Member Since: 02 Apr 2018
Location: Scotland
Posts: 15

anyone?

Thu Apr 05 2018 2:12am

Col

Member Since: 02 Sep 2012
Location: Hawkes Bay NZ
Posts: 4977

2013 Range Rover Sport Supercharged Autobiography Santorini Black

You may find what you are looking for amongst this lot, although it relates to mainly U.S. spec cars.

http://www.auto-brochures.com/land_rover.html

Cheers
Col

Thu Apr 05 2018 3:14am

Am89

Member Since: 02 Apr 2018
Location: Scotland
Posts: 15

Thanks Col, most of the differences in the pdf files are between the HSE and petrol variants.

I’m assuming the HSE dynamic has the the goodies such as terrain response, air susp and active dynamics
- any way to tell looking at centre console ?

Thu Apr 05 2018 3:59am

Col

Member Since: 02 Sep 2012
Location: Hawkes Bay NZ
Posts: 4977

Yeah looks like the HSE Dynamic not available in the U.S. in 2016, although it does list it in the 2017 brochure so maybe not introduced in U.S until 2017.

Cheers
Col

Thu Apr 05 2018 4:15am

Am89

Member Since: 02 Apr 2018
Location: Scotland
Posts: 15

Took the RR out today for a good few hours between motorways and normal roads. Excellent car, very comfy and my wife commented on how safe it felt. Handles well and is fun to drive considering it’s size and weight - almost shrink around you.

The air susp is a nice touch as are the side steps, one thing that did confuse me - the wheel alignment seems to be off centre, most likely due to a pothole or curb etc.. I’d have thought it would be hard to knock an RR’s Alignment out!

Sun Apr 08 2018 2:46am

RRSTDV8

Member Since: 12 Aug 2011
Location: Northamptonshire
Posts: 8985

Quote:
I’d have thought it would be hard to knock an RR’s Alignment out!

The RRS has fully adjustable suspension with front caster, camber and toe, and rear camber and toe being adjustable. This means you can get the alignment just-so but it also seems to mean that the thing needs alignment checks done quite regularly.

Alignment is not helped by the arm and anti-roll bar bushes being consumable items. 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

Sun Apr 08 2018 8:39am

Col

Member Since: 02 Sep 2012
Location: Hawkes Bay NZ
Posts: 4977

Am89 wrote:
- the wheel alignment seems to be off centre

If you mean the steering wheel off centre, I had same issue and it annoyed me, had 4 wheel alignment done, steering sensor calibrated etc. etc. car drove straight as a die, even with hands off the wheel and under braking. Ended up removing steering wheel and moving it one spline on the shaft been spot on ever since with no problems and that was 4 years ago.

Cheers
Col

Sun Apr 08 2018 8:52am

Am89

Member Since: 02 Apr 2018
Location: Scotland
Posts: 15

Could any specialist align the RR or does it have to be LR? Roads where I live are bad hence the reason I was considering a comfy 4x4 but I don’t want to have to get Alignment done a regular basis

Sun Apr 08 2018 12:54pm

geoffsnook

Member Since: 19 Nov 2016
Location: cardiff
Posts: 1699

2005 Range Rover Sport Supercharged HSE Java Black

Any wheel alignment company with a 4 wheel alignment tool can do it but make sure they actually know what they are doing

Sun Apr 08 2018 1:02pm

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