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360 Member Since: 02 Aug 2013 Location: kent Posts: 116 |
95 is fine for a LR, you won’t notice the difference between the two and fuel in this part of the world is good quality and consistent, so save your money |
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Sun Jan 14 2018 11:01am |
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Dobby Member Since: 02 Jan 2018 Location: East Seaxe Posts: 101 |
Ooooh, tin hat on. incoming! I bet this'll shortly be the longest thread here. IMHO the premium fuels do make a difference. Perhaps not the performance boost you're expecting to feel, but certainly in the fuel efficiency. I routinely find that with premium petrol and diesel, Shell in particular, give me many more miles per tank. Then at the other end of the scale, cheapo super market fuel is far worse. |
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Sun Jan 14 2018 10:41pm |
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DaveW Member Since: 14 Nov 2013 Location: Warwickshire Posts: 283 |
As an ex engine development man before I moved to SVO, technically the engines are more than happy running 95RON, but there's definitely a happier engine when filled with 98, especially when driving "enthusiastically" with a lot of boost. |
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Mon Jan 15 2018 7:57am |
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SVR575 Member Since: 16 Apr 2008 Location: uk & Europe Posts: 1827 |
Thanks for the replies guys, and its really good to have Dave,s expertise on here helping us out. SVR 2018 in Santorini Black. |
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Mon Jan 15 2018 9:05am |
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timhum Member Since: 06 Mar 2017 Location: Suffolk Posts: 389 |
I agree that premium fuels make a difference but only in cars designed to perform at there best on them. For example I had an AM Vantage that would run on 95 but by using electronic trickery, to get the designed performance it needed 98. On the other hand cars designed to run on 95 or the diesel equivalent will gain nothing from moving up a grade. Until recent retirement I was driving in the region of 33k miles per year and put these premium fuels to the test a various cars including LR, Jaguar and VW. Never ever got any measurable improvement in mpg. In fact a recent add on a BP forecourt for premium fuels stated that you might get 20 miles more per tankful so pretty insignificant. Perhaps they contain more detergent etc and keep the engine cleaner and more efficient but in my case I changed cars at 100k miles and they were all running sweetly. Tim |
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Mon Jan 15 2018 9:14am |
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JPR Member Since: 07 Aug 2006 Location: Cleveland Posts: 289 |
I use any brand apart from supermarket etc. Mainly shell, wouldnt use anything out of a supermarket as it is trash Current
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Mon Jan 15 2018 9:22am |
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360 Member Since: 02 Aug 2013 Location: kent Posts: 116 |
All fuels in the UK are produced to British Standards whether from a supermarket or a brand like shell. The supermarkets buy their fuel from the brands refineries they don’t refine themselves.
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Mon Jan 15 2018 10:17am |
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Mark_N Member Since: 09 Aug 2013 Location: London Posts: 1102 |
Super Plus/Shell V-Power for me all the way and when in Germany, Aral 101 Racing. Mark
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Mon Jan 15 2018 10:37am |
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wilf Member Since: 08 Nov 2012 Location: on the naughty step Posts: 939 |
200k miles in JLR V6 diesels in 3 different vehicles - all almost exclusively on supermarket fuel - never a problem.
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Mon Jan 15 2018 11:43am |
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Violetpiano Member Since: 03 Jun 2014 Location: London Posts: 561 |
Long ago, when life and cars were much simpler.............there was definitely a notable difference between 2 star and 4 star petrol (and I am sure I remember some 4 star pumps serving up 105 octane).
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Mon Jan 15 2018 10:43pm |
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Buckster Member Since: 05 Mar 2015 Location: Hampshire Posts: 1656 |
Good enough for me in the JLR Diesel The old M5 always gets the good octane stuff in it as I genuinely feel it runs happiest and feels more lively, and she is getting on abit now 2003 BMW M5 - 5 Litres of V8 Optimax Slurping Goodness in Carbon Black 2013 SDV6 HSE Black Edition- Orkney Grey with Ebony & Ivory. LR Facelift RAI, Genuine G4 Expedition Rack, 4x Warn SBD-160 Spotlights, Warn 9.5XPS Winch, Mantec Underbody Protection and Sump Guard, Full Easy Lift Suspension Module, LR Light Guards, Light Force HTX230 Hybrid spotlights, 18” Compomotive PD1881 on 265/65/18 BF Goodrich KO2, ARB fridge, TuffTrek awning 😎 |
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Tue Jan 16 2018 7:31am |
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GodivaNige Member Since: 14 May 2016 Location: Warwickshire Posts: 420 |
The fuel sold on the supermarket forecourt is exactly the same as that sold by your mainstream brands. It comes from the same refineries, is transported along the same pipelines and is stored in the same tanks at the distribution depots. The only difference is the additive blends that are mixed with the fuels at the point the tankers are filled before distribution. These are different and are developed by the respective companies but ALL have to legally comply with the relevant minimum standard of quality. Supermarkets buy their additives from the same product developers that supply Esso, Mobil, BP etc. There are no chemical experts within Asda, Tesco and Sainsbury’s. On occasion, when a new additive has been developed, it is initially distributed with sole rights by that company but does eventually go on open sale as new additives come to market. There is negligible difference between standard 95 RON purchased at your local Shell and that bought from Morrisons. The same goes for diesel. If you’re willing to pay more for the mainstream brand, it’s for no other reason than you have been drawn in my the marketeers. The difference between 95 and 98 RON petrol is obvious and some engines are specifically designed to work with the higher octane rating. If an engine has been designed to run on 95 RON, there is no reason to use the higher octane product. There is little to be gained. (Ex Buncefield sub contractor ) |
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Tue Jan 16 2018 8:01am |
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insiorc Member Since: 17 Jul 2016 Location: Scotland Posts: 533 |
I had a visit to BP Grangemouth refinery in 1997 which supplies all of Scotland and the very North of Englands fuels (or did back then), no matter what fancy badge the fourcourt had it still all was refined at Grangemouth - it was the same BP fuel. Although I had heard all Scotlands fuels came from there, it still tickled me when I saw the tanker fillup area with queues of different brand tankers waiting.
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Tue Jan 16 2018 9:35am |
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andymc Member Since: 04 Jan 2017 Location: london Posts: 127 |
My preference is always 98 over 95 and ideally from Shell SVR with a few bits from Urban and Glohh |
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Tue Jan 16 2018 10:31pm |
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