timhum wrote:

I placed an order for a 3.0l HSE two weeks ago. The dealer, a major outlet, is having difficulty getting any idea of a build date from LR with an indication that it might be September. What does this mean, an upgrade for model year 2018 which would be rolled out after the summer holiday or is there a possibility that with the introduction of the Velar that the RRS is going to be phased out altogether? It is after all in direct competition with the Velar and is probably not as profitable.
Any ideas from those in the know on this forum?
Thanks Tim

It's funny how every thread on here seems to contain Velar bashing

Whether it be the hight of the car, the recessed door handles, the price, the non early adopters of LR products etc etc

The fact is that the car has now been launched and it is a more sportier and faster car than the RRS 3.0d and it will and should drive better than a RRS too as that is the intention that JLR had when launching the car. The only reason I can think of why the Velar has been given the lesser 2.0d options is so that they can get the volume of sales required to cover their R&D and tooling costs of the car (think company car drivers etc) and also so that they don't stagnate the RRS by only launching with the 3.0d option which is faster from 0-60 than the RRS - kind of defeats the name of SPORT then if you see what I mean? Why have a car faster than the one you have called SPORT

The SPORT will and has to move more upmarket and have a power gain when the new model is launched (not sure of this will be MY18) as for now the Velar in the higher specs will for most new punters be a better option is it will be the car with the latest technology, looks more contemporary and you will all see for yourself when the car hit's UK dealers for a roadshow in May as to how much it has moved the game on from the current RRS.

From what I have seen of the Velar so far I am sure a slight drop in ride height and a 5cm drop in length should not be enough for people to choose the older car over the newer car...watch this space

As for being an early adopter - the biggest benefit over the potential issues that can arise are the lack of depreciation on the newly launched cars - look at the FFRR, RRS and the Evoque - for at least 24-30 months the used cars were pretty much the same price as new ones!!!

I'm ready to get bashed by the RRS folks now

I couldn't agree more on your point about depreciation v early adopter, but with LR's reputation on in car technology I would understand others concerns.

It will be interesting to see where they go with the all new RRS and I am torn a little between a Velar 3.0d or an RRS, but I think the extra space of the RRS will come in handy, though I'm still not 100%, but if I want a Velar this year I will have to get my skates on.

I think you have missed the boat for this years allocation already tbh. Park Royal have over 50 orders and deliveries are now well in to next year....

Yes, my local dealer has over 40 orders but I do know of another who still has some allocation for this year (daren't say who) but I will have to pull the trigger this week.

Be Wary Foxblue I take what most stealers say with a pinch of salt

AFAIK this years allocation is spoken for already....make sure they assure of you this years slot and get it in writing with some compensation due if not

Good advice, thanks. Out of interest what spec Velar have you gone for?

HSE Dynamic R spec'd up to £76k.

I am going to Solihil to see the various colours before I decide on a Black or Grey car vs a Fuji White or Silicon Silver car

Nice, I've specced one to £74k without blinking! I like Silicon but it's silly money on the Velar, if you haven't seen it in the flesh yet Jardines in Erdington have a Disco 5 in the showroom, agree with you about the green hue, but it's a nice colour.

They had the launch cars on 1st March in Silicon Silver so I did see it in the flesh - problem was it was under white lights so looked silver - very misleading! In the pics it does look great though but someone round the corner has an RRS in that colour and it is very khaki!

I think Silver would look fab but I want to see one first

After commenting that my dealer was having difficulty getting a build slot before September they called me today to confirm they have now received a May 5th build date. Great news and thanks for comments on this thread.
Tim

So, into June now, how long before MY18 details are released? MY2016 HSE D SDV6 - gone due to fuel dilution problems.

By the age of 50 you have the face you deserve - George Orwell.

I took delivery of my new car 10 days ago rather than the long wait initially indicated. Still no sign of the MY2018 changes so I'm glad I didn't wait. The decent discount obtained more than makes up for any possible updates.
First impressions are very positive and i'm pleased i managed to overcome my hesitance on paying this much money for a daily driver. The only disappointing part of the transaction is the very high depreciation sufferred on our Disco Sport which the RRS has replaced.
Tim

wilf wrote:

So, into June now, how long before MY18 details are released?

Patience gentlemen

MY18 details should appear towards the end of the month