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Hodog16



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Vehicle has a lot of potential. Hopefully the real thing looks sharper than the mock-ups. 2016 SCV8 Dynamic - Firenze Red/Pimento

Post #519241 Mon Feb 27 2017 11:21pm
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Tim in Scotland



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As it is smaller and lighter than RRS, possibly no V8's will be needed. Evoque has managed to sell well despite no V6 being available.

I'm in a quandary though, V6S/C, PHEV or 3.0 SDv6? Head says SDv6 for the type of motoring I do - mostly 30-60 miles runs with 3 or 4 trips a year to London, or V6S/C for the local back roads and Let the train/ plane take the strain for trips to London, or do I become an ecowarrior like Muddywheels and wait for the PHEV version (and possibly for all the other teething problems to be ironed out in 12-18 months time?) 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - soon to be replaced
2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

Post #519254 Tue Feb 28 2017 6:31am
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donny dog



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....or stick to RRS, you know it makes sense! Wink

Post #519263 Tue Feb 28 2017 8:08am
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RRSman



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...or keep both! I'm planning on replacing the wife's Evoque with one - deposit down.... Thumbs Up

Post #519267 Tue Feb 28 2017 8:48am
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Tim in Scotland



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donny dog wrote:
....or stick to RRS, you know it makes sense! Wink


We'll have to see what tomorrow brings with pricing of the Velar. Unfortunately as a result of a potential Brexit my pension stands to reduce from >£65,000 pa to zero and I will not be able to retire in 2018 as a result. I worked on German Flagged ships for more than 10 years and as part of my contract my German Employer agreed to pay all my German Taxes and Social Security (which includes an 85% of final salary pension payout from my time in Germany...........) they will be refunded all that money if UK goes ahead with Brexit and I won't have any pension except the UK State Pension and a small Industrial pension. Looks like to afford a nice last new car i will be working at least until I am 65 and maybe until I am 70. Not things that I ever planned for, especially as I planned to retire 5 years ago at 55 and decided to stay on until I am 61............. it back fired with the vote to leave and I'm sure that very few people who voted to leave the EU ever thought of more than immigration or a non-existant saving of £380 million a week............... and never thought about those Brits who have worked for many years for companies based in the EU, especially Germany where there are very generous pension and social security arrangements for retirees. I should have retired at 55 and then my pension would have been assured as I would already be drawing it! If I cannot afford a new Velar then I can still sell the RRS and have my trusty 21 year old, 100% reliable TDi300 Defender 90 even if I may not be able to take it into any town or might have to pay huge diesel taxes and it is horrid to drive long distance in, I will still have a set of wheels to use and know that they are increasing in value rather than depreciating at rate of knots! 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - soon to be replaced
2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

Post #519289 Tue Feb 28 2017 10:40am
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0310



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Tim, know how you feel about pensions, mine was robbed by golden brown in the late '90s but the worst is yet to come if the wicked witch of the north gets her way. We will have to sell up and move south again, have been told as much by one of her supporters. We will be living down sarf in a tent as our house up here will be unsellable.

Back on topic, look forwards to seeing the Velar, really liked the F Pace we had on loan for four days, if the RR is on the same platform it will be good - price dependant of course. May still go daft and re-visit the F Type option, blow the lot and go out with a bang. 2018 MY19 HSE Dynamic, Santorini, Ebony/Ivory, Sliding pano, Adaptive cruise, Black wheels. Arrived 3rd September 2018
2015 MY16 HSE Dynamic, Santorini, ebony/cirrus, sliding pano, cameras, black wheels - Arrived 1 October 2015

Post #519292 Tue Feb 28 2017 11:07am
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donny dog



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Tim in Scotland wrote:
donny dog wrote:
....or stick to RRS, you know it makes sense! Wink


We'll have to see what tomorrow brings with pricing of the Velar. Unfortunately as a result of a potential Brexit my pension stands to reduce from >£65,000 pa to zero and I will not be able to retire in 2018 as a result. I worked on German Flagged ships for more than 10 years and as part of my contract my German Employer agreed to pay all my German Taxes and Social Security (which includes an 85% of final salary pension payout from my time in Germany...........) they will be refunded all that money if UK goes ahead with Brexit and I won't have any pension except the UK State Pension and a small Industrial pension. Looks like to afford a nice last new car i will be working at least until I am 65 and maybe until I am 70. Not things that I ever planned for, especially as I planned to retire 5 years ago at 55 and decided to stay on until I am 61............. it back fired with the vote to leave and I'm sure that very few people who voted to leave the EU ever thought of more than immigration or a non-existant saving of £380 million a week............... and never thought about those Brits who have worked for many years for companies based in the EU, especially Germany where there are very generous pension and social security arrangements for retirees. I should have retired at 55 and then my pension would have been assured as I would already be drawing it! If I cannot afford a new Velar then I can still sell the RRS and have my trusty 21 year old, 100% reliable TDi300 Defender 90 even if I may not be able to take it into any town or might have to pay huge diesel taxes and it is horrid to drive long distance in, I will still have a set of wheels to use and know that they are increasing in value rather than depreciating at rate of knots!


I don't fully follow this, but it seems iniquitous. Surely you must be entitled to something, though? If the UK government pays all the money back, they win and you lose unless they still pay what they owe you. I fully understand your fears and concerns, but is this inevitable? Could there maybe be agreement on some sort on a reciprocal basis?( There must be German citizens in the UK building up pension entitlements).

Post #519293 Tue Feb 28 2017 11:18am
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Tim in Scotland



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As an expat Englishman I have lived in Scotland since I was 7 years old (mover there in 1964) and I have had some pleasant nationalists tell me the same thing, that I will have to go back to whence I came............. Donny, I suspect that what I received from the German Govt was a scare tactic to "persuade" us to vote remain, but 2 things - 1) the letter arrived a week after the referendum and 2) it certainly has put the clappers up me and a lot of my colleagues who received the same letter. The issue is the pension for us was non contributory - if we had paid by deduction from salary then I would have something to fight about. I cannot afford to take the German Govt to court unfortunately. 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - soon to be replaced
2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

Post #519318 Tue Feb 28 2017 12:43pm
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donny dog



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Well, I really feel for you. The fact that a lot of people have been shafted over their pensions in recent years is certainly no consolation to you, and this potentially is the worst case I've ever heard. I just hope that the threat isn't carried out and/or they sort some form of reciprocal arrangement out for you. There can't be many things worse than planning for your retirement then having it all snatched away from you by matters outside your control. Sad

Post #519321 Tue Feb 28 2017 12:51pm
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stickinthemud



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I hope the Velar is nice as I have put it on my consider list. I have a 2010 RRS SDV6 SE which I've had from new. I only do about 6K a year. A couple of weeks ago I tried a 65 plate RRS HSE 306 and loved it but I'm not sure about going for another diesel with my low mileage and all the threats, even though Euro 5 and 6 don't seem to be targeted.That brings me to the Velar which apparently can make 295 bhp in 4 cylinder form and probably mid 300s as a straight six. As the are only 2 of us something a bit smaller but still nice to drive would be good.
I found myself in the dealers today and had a look at the new Discovery, it's Huuuge, nicely built though. The rear quarters are really bulky, shame I thought the Disco 3 and 4 were a great design, I had a 3 when they first came out.

Post #519329 Tue Feb 28 2017 2:09pm
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Tim in Scotland



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IIRC the 295hp motor is a petrol and part of JLR's Plug In Hybrid Elelctric Vehicle plans. Certainly one I would be looking at too. 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - soon to be replaced
2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

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mmol



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Post #519387 Tue Feb 28 2017 9:51pm
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RRSman



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Now that's better!

Post #519391 Tue Feb 28 2017 10:11pm
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Cooperman



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That looks pretty tidy to me. More of an estate car look to it than a lofty RRS / FFRR, but stylish. Looks good from the front (as does the D5 which I saw in the metal at the local stealers yesterday). Cabin takes minimal to another level; but thought they'd have given it a gearstick like the RRS.

I'm close to pulling the trigger on upgrading my 2013 HSE SDV6 to an AB SDV8, but I am interested to see what motor they put under the bonnet of the Velar.

Post #519398 Tue Feb 28 2017 11:34pm
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Tyrefitter



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United Kingdom 2013 Range Rover Sport SDV6 Autobiography Fuji White

Looks nice,like cooperman says it would be better with a gear stick.Whats with the prices,some are saying they will be between the 40k evoque & the 80k sport.The sport start at about 59k or is this just to hike the price up.also talk of a svr so this could be the 80k one.

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