Afternoon All,

Hoping someone can advise or has had the misfortune of experiencing similar and can offer some guidance.

Bought a 2006 RRS a few months ago then rear wheel was binding, so changed Disks/ pads all round and 2x new rear calipers. Also changed handbrake shoes (if thats the right term).

I thought this would solve the issue, but then i felt shaking through car when driving - pulled over and the rear driver side wheel was smelling of burning. Let is cool down, then carried on at around 50mph.

So its gone back into garage, had new carriers and guide pins? (again, no idea what these are) and also checked the EPB and all seems free. Having the car back today (8th Dec) and praying its resolved the issue.

The car used to squeal when turning left... hoping this has gone away...but anyone else have these issues?

Would be good to hear from you....

cheers

Gareth

How much faith do you have in the garage doing the work?

Sounds to me as if the first time they have just slapped in some new discs, pads and shoes and calipers (kerching!) and then at the most recent visit they have overhauled the (new) calipers with some more new parts (kerching again!) which should not have been necessary.

The brake set up on the RRS is not particularly complicated (except for the electric handbrake module) but to be reliable the handrake shoes mechanism inside the 'drum' part of the disc should be completely stripped, scrupulously cleaned, lubricated in the right places and then reassembled and adjusted correctly.

I would suspect that your garage has missed out or skimped on the stripping, cleaning, lubricating, reassembling and adjusting part on the first visit so your handbrake shoes are not relaxing properly when the handbrake is released.

The only symptom you have described that sounds odd and might be indicative of something else going wrong is the 'squealing when turning left '.

Try going to a garage that specialises in Land Rover and has a good reputation (not a franchised dealer - they are mostly terrible) and ask them to read the fault codes. They will need to have a Land Rover specific tool - not just a generic thing. 2008 MY Java Black TDV8 HSE

Hi Paddi,

Thanks for coming back to me on this... i do trust the garage in that they have replaced the parts, but im not overly convinced about the technical know-how. Their exact words to me was, fitting brakes, discs/ pads/ calipers isnt exactly a science.... and as the tech' has considerable BMW experience and the LR system is very much the same, i trust they know what their doing.

But i have now handed over best part of £1k and im praying later today the car will behave itself and squealing has stopped and brakes no longer sticking on the rear.

As you said, failing that, i'll take it to a specialist. Just concerned they'll want to replace everything (dics/ pads, cals/ epb) again at another cost

But im staying positive...

If it is the EPB, would not using it be a, albeit crude, solution?

cheers

Gareth

Considering all the parts your garage has now changed there is no good reason for the brakes not to work perfectly.

If there is still a problem with binding then I wouldn't expect to hand over any more money as it is clearly something they should fix FOC.

If the EPB module develops a fault it is generally accompanied by warning lights on the dash and/or loud 'barking' noises when operated.

Not using the EPB is some people's solution but personally I think it best to use it (if properly adjusted!) since the handbrake shoe mechanism is more likely to seize up through lack of movement.

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Hi All,

Thought id come back with an update following some work on the brakes...

So do to a sticky rear calliper, heating brakes and warped disk, i has discs/ pads changed all round, two rear callipers inc pins, guides, etc and also new handbrake shoes and overhaul to boot.

Seems like the rear camper sticking has gone away, but I'm still left with this squeak squeak squeak noise when I'm turning, predominately to the left. Noise seems to come from drivers side rear.

Im convinced the EPB is rubbing as I'm getting less mpg too.

Question - could the EPB be set to 'tight' or need to be relaxed to avoid this squeaking when turning? or does anyone think something else could be afoot?

Thanks in advance folks

Gareth

....nearly forgot and maybe insightful info...

I also get a HDC fault message when turning the car over for the first time... it then goes and doesn't pop back up if i stop, restart the car... and also, the HDC does work to slow the car down

HDC feels like handbrake is being used to slow car down... could this all be linked?

cheers

Gareth

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Hi DrRob,

Thanks for the info - i'll see if i can get in touch and meet up

all the best

Gareth

The more I read through this thread the more I think you should be going back to the garage and asking for a load of money back. After they changed the calipers etc. any faults from that point on have been caused by them.

When the hand brake shoes are changed theres a bedding in process. I would ask the garage if they did anything to bed them in/followed the process.

The HDC fault could be because they've disturbed or trapped/crushed the wire for one of the ABS sensors

The squeeling while cornering I wouldn't have thought is related and could be a wheel bearing on the way out (allowing a bit of movment in the disk and causing it to rub).

Hey SoCast,

I would agree with you if id taken it to a garage, but it was done 'on the cheap' so to speak by a friend (of a friend). I've been assured that quality parts were used (i.e. Brembo) and also the correct procedure for the EPB was adhered to....

its just very frustrating that a lot of money has been spent on what was thought to be the right thing and comprehensive overhaul but hasn't really solved the issue.. well, it has a bit in that the calliper isn't sticking now ( ) but the squealing is still there and its quite embarrassing - I feel i need to say something like, 'yeah, new brakes bedding in or something'...

just would like a independent and experienced view to set me on the straight and narrow... can't be the only one whose experienced this...

Im off over xmas, so might try and call a few local indies...

Gar

My brakes creak and groan a little at low speed.

If you've paid £1k to a 'friend' you've been bent over without being taken to lunch first.

You're looking at £400 for a kit off ebay that does all 4 corners:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RANGE-ROVER-SPOR...xyIPNTd0wl

Brake calipers on the back are £59 each..

Tell me about it! I do feel a bit cheesed off, but lessons learnt now and I've exhausted that avenue, so drawing a line underneath it.

But i do like things working properly and abs this squealing isn't right, so fingers crossed it can be something diagnosed confidently and i can do something about it.

..then i need to do the front arms and ARB

The cornering squeak will be caused by a wheel bearing on it's way out.

It's not an expensive part. Shame it's not one of the front's as the rears are meant to be a pig of a job to do..

wheel bearing you say.... maybe silly Q, but is there a way i can confirm its the wheel bearing (s) before i take the plunge and have them replaced?

Happy to get the job done if their needed, just hate the idea now of spending money unnecessarily (again) :/

thanks for the advice btw

Gar

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