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Carlo



Member Since: 30 Apr 2015
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Brake pad replacement

Just had two year service completed, 31k on clock and front and rear pads now need changing, brembos on front and dealer wants £615 all in to change front and rear, anyone had this done at dealer and what did you pay? Anyone gone to an independent garage to save a few pennies or to make sure the job was done properly?!

Post #507122 Wed Oct 05 2016 8:29pm
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IRBails



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Some one should come up with what alternative replacement pads can be used. No big deal to change your own if you can find after market pads. I am assuming that the price was for pads only , I know with my previous vehicle a change was pad and discs. Also are you talking miles or K's? M16 SVD8 ,4.4 HSE with a few extras, Sold R50 , Wife SQ5 , BMW R1200GSW.

Post #507125 Wed Oct 05 2016 8:44pm
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Carlo



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Yep pads only and miles not kilometres

Post #507127 Wed Oct 05 2016 8:52pm
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IRBails



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As you are still for now in Europe I suggest buying alternative even direct from Brembo , and fitting yourself or using a brake shop. Rears may require a IID Tool if like the Audi rear electric hand brake set up. Also wondering if pad wear light has come on , dealers often say pads need replacing before the light comes on , if the light has not come on I'd leave until it does , you will still have many miles after the light to sort new pads at a reasonable price. M16 SVD8 ,4.4 HSE with a few extras, Sold R50 , Wife SQ5 , BMW R1200GSW.

Post #507130 Wed Oct 05 2016 8:59pm
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Brick



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IRBails wrote:
Some one should come up with what alternative replacement pads can be used. No big deal to change your own if you can find after market pads. I am assuming that the price was for pads only , I know with my previous vehicle a change was pad and discs. Also are you talking miles or K's?


I have purchased a set of Hawk Performance LTS pads to go on the front and back. Can't stand the amount of brake dust on the wheels after one month of ownership, washing once a week to keep respectable. Previously ran Hawk ceramic pads on my Performance VW Golf and was impressed by amount of dust reduction. The LTS have the same low dust rating but better braking rating than the ceramic pads, so high expectations as I tow a 2.6 caravan occasionally.

I am away from home at the moment, returning on the weekend, and the new pads will be fitted on Monday. Will post the pad codes once confirmed they are the correct ones for the L494. Cameron

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Post #507153 Thu Oct 06 2016 12:13am
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Hi Brick,,please let me know how you get on with the new pads as I'm also getting loads of brake pad dust on my wheels & I was wondering which pads were best for less dust.

Andy. Andy.
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Post #507155 Thu Oct 06 2016 5:42am
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Brick wrote:
IRBails wrote:
Some one should come up with what alternative replacement pads can be used. No big deal to change your own if you can find after market pads. I am assuming that the price was for pads only , I know with my previous vehicle a change was pad and discs. Also are you talking miles or K's?


I have purchased a set of Hawk Performance LTS pads to go on the front and back. Can't stand the amount of brake dust on the wheels after one month of ownership, washing once a week to keep respectable. Previously ran Hawk ceramic pads on my Performance VW Golf and was impressed by amount of dust reduction. The LTS have the same low dust rating but better braking rating than the ceramic pads, so high expectations as I tow a 2.6 caravan occasionally.

I am away from home at the moment, returning on the weekend, and the new pads will be fitted on Monday. Will post the pad codes once confirmed they are the correct ones for the L494.


Appreciate the info, where to buy and part numbers would be of great assistance. M16 SVD8 ,4.4 HSE with a few extras, Sold R50 , Wife SQ5 , BMW R1200GSW.

Post #507157 Thu Oct 06 2016 5:49am
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ive found this site but it seems to be usa.
http://www.hawkperformance.com/parts-search

Andy Andy.
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Post #507177 Thu Oct 06 2016 11:35am
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Carlo



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Local garage where we have tyres etc. Quoting £247 all in with APEC pads being fitted,
Anyone used this brand before? Not sure if the saving worth risk, APEC only guarantee pads for 24 months if discs fitted same time which I'm not doing.

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Brick



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Replacement pad info

Sorry for the late reply, other commitments got in the way.

I can confirm the Hawk Performance LTS (part number HB685 Y.610) will fit the front calipers. The FMSI pad shape is D1426, so any pad with this shape should fit if you have a preferred manufacturer. The dust level has definitely reduced from the OEM pads. I purchased my pads from the US.

Unfortunately the rear pads I purchased do not fit. Through a bit of time on Mr Google I have identified that the correct pad shape for the rears are D1692 (also can use WVA:25720 for shape). Hawk confirmed to me via email they do not currently make this shape although it is on the list for early next year. I have identified the following manufacturers who do produce this shape but not so sure which would be considered low dust:

- EBC Green: DP62161
- Brembo: P 44 021
- Pagid: 8DB 355 020-361
- Remsa: 1541.00 or 21541.00
- Bendix: DB1781 (this may be Aust only) or 573439B
- ICER: 182120 Cameron

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Post #507976 Mon Oct 17 2016 12:00pm
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Brick did you fit the pads yourself? I used to do my R50 disc and pads , not such a big job . Interested if you did the job what sort of time and effort was required. I am interested in the rears with the electric brake, I know for the SQ5 which has electric hand brake you need the software to fit. M16 SVD8 ,4.4 HSE with a few extras, Sold R50 , Wife SQ5 , BMW R1200GSW.

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udash



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According to service manual you can use the following steps to wind the rear callipers to install new pads.

This procedure requires the vehicle in the Park or Neutral position, with the ignition turned ON (the engine
must be OFF) and the parking brake system released.
This procedure allows the parking brake to be released when removing and installing new rear brake pads or
brake discs.

Press and hold the parking brake switch in the release position.
Wait 2 seconds.
Press and hold the accelerator pedal in the wide open throttle position.
Wait 2 seconds.
Turn the ignition Off and back On immediately.
NOTE: An audible noise will be heard to confirm that the parking brake has been released in Service Mode.
Release the accelerator pedal and release the parking brake switch to the neutral position.

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Brick



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Thanks for that response udash, I have not done the rears as yet. My understanding, and I stand to be corrected, is that the process is meant to be similar to the D3/D4 for the rears. So the brake bible should be a great reference.

With regard to the fronts, a piece of the proverbial. Remove the wheels, remove the centre bolt on the top of the caliper that holds the pads in, remove the 2 pins holding the anti-rattle plate, use a pad spreader, and out they should pop. Reverse the process to install new ones. Should be able to do both sides in under an hour comfortably. Cameron

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1976 Escort mk2 - race car

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Replacing the fronts I always push the Pistons back in with the pad in situ,that way it pushes them both in together.

Andy. Andy.
21 Ford Ranger
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Focus RS Red Edition
2015 RRS AB Fuji.
2014 RRS SC Santorini
2016 VW Amarok
2014 RRS AB Fuji
2012 RRS Red Edition Fuji
2015 Nissan Navara
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2008 RRS White
2007 RRS Santorino

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IRBails



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Can I ask another question from the learned few ? Is the brake pad wear indicator a component that needs replacing with the pads? My Touareg had a wear indicator that wore through a circuit so you needed pads and the wear indicator to renew the pads. M16 SVD8 ,4.4 HSE with a few extras, Sold R50 , Wife SQ5 , BMW R1200GSW.

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