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muddywheels
Milk Float Man

Member Since: 30 Jun 2010
Location: East Riding of Yorkshire
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OK so last night I did 17 miles and it cost 73p to recharge afterwards - so quick calc gives equivalent of 116 mpg assuming £5 per gallon Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

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Fri Sep 16 2016 10:11pm

nigel52

Member Since: 20 Nov 2013
Location: Farnham
Posts: 274

2011 Range Rover Sport 3.0 TDV6 HSE Stornoway Grey

Buckster wrote:
nigel52 wrote:
Have been off the site for a few months since moving from RRS to Merc GLE and immediately saw Muddy's post.

As a follower of your posts over the years fascinated why after having a loan DS for so long you continued with your purchase of the DS with very positive reviews only to change to the PHEV.,?

Hello Nigel, good to see your still checking in occasionally and hope all is good! Hope the Merc is treating you well?

I agree with everything Muddy says, particularly how customers are treated. I will say that JLR is still a great brand and I loved my RRS just could not take the reliability risk in Europe. Saying that, where we spend a good deal of time close to La Rochelle the only British cars (well Tata) we see are LR so the French like them.

Having now done 3,500 miles in the Mec 350 GLE SUV I am pleased with my choice. Great engine and nine speed smooth gearbox, £225 VED tax, excellent customer service , 30 yr free breakdown incl free hotel accommodation etc. I should have paid extra and got memory seats rather than just electric and Nappa leather. Air suspension good and in sport mode no great difference from RRS Dynamic. RRS obviously better off road but Merc not bad but I would never go extreme. However, personally I felt my Freelander was better off road than the RRS due to the huge extra weight of the RRS that dug in on sand and mud particularly on hills.

Do I regret my change back to Merc - absolutely not. If one wants to do long distance high speed motoring then the Merc 350 GLE takes some beating. Not as economical as hoped but better than my TDV6 RRS. I suspect similar to a new RRS although I don't hang around.

(Buck I expect the three of us will meet up at the 'No Name' in the winter to compare notes and sink a few.) Current Merc GLE 3.5d 2016 model, 2011 RRS HSE standard
Previous 2012 FL2 liked but boot too small
Previous to LR's 3 x Merc E320 estates - fantastic load carriers and long distance cruisers, ultra reliable. Only changed as needed a 4x4 high tow vehicle. Did have a 1955 early LR drop down windscreen and fuel tank under the drivers seat; again very reliable and super rugged.

Fri Sep 16 2016 10:33pm

HemoRRS

Member Since: 31 Mar 2016
Location: Wolverhampton
Posts: 254

2010 Range Rover Sport 3.0 TDV6 HSE Santorini Black

Just put this here...

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars...brid-power

Sat Sep 17 2016 12:37am

muddywheels
Milk Float Man

Member Since: 30 Jun 2010
Location: East Riding of Yorkshire
Posts: 5637

Yes I found a 2 year old RRS hybrid for £65k with a range of 1 mile on electric which wasn't much good

The plug in bit isn't available yet but will be interesting to see when it's available how it compares

I also heard the MY17 has increased the electric range but unable to see how far, with a starting price of £75k, £185 VED, no capital allowances and only 45 mpg claimed (which will be exaggerated)

For the same money I could buy 2 phev with a better electric range, claimed 156 mpg (which I'm exceeding), 100% capital allowance and free VED

The Outlander PHEV is outselling everything else for a reason and they've also announced electric range on next version will be 75 miles - LR are playing catch up Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

Sat Sep 17 2016 7:43am

sagalout

Member Since: 26 Feb 2013
Location: Harrogate
Posts: 128

Interesting thread - I like the idea of the Phev as my commute is 15 miles each way. I think once I've got the V8 SVR out of my system though I'd maybe go full electric with the Tesla Model X. The performance is staggering and the charging network improving all the time

Sun Sep 18 2016 7:59pm

SRE

Member Since: 16 Jan 2010
Location: Alicante Prov Spain + Hampshire UK
Posts: 2329

muddywheels wrote:
OK so last night I did 17 miles and it cost 73p to recharge afterwards - so quick calc gives equivalent of 116 mpg assuming £5 per gallon

BUT, have to managed to blast past anything yet, sorry, I will rephrase, have you managed to overtake ANYTHING.

In Spain - 2018 F Pace - Frightened away from the Sports due to crank failures
Gone - A couple of RRS, A couple of Disco's. However thinking of another Sport.

Mon Sep 19 2016 7:44am

muddywheels
Milk Float Man

Member Since: 30 Jun 2010
Location: East Riding of Yorkshire
Posts: 5637

Top of page 2

Had a run to York Saturday which meant I had to call on the petrol engine for support - according to computer mpg dropped to 69.4 mpg but I will get it back up this week thanks to local runs in electric range

According to computer my electric range is now 38 miles - this is 6 miles more than claimed Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

Mon Sep 19 2016 7:47am

SRE

Member Since: 16 Jan 2010
Location: Alicante Prov Spain + Hampshire UK
Posts: 2329

OK Muddy, but what did you overtake and was it downhill In Spain - 2018 F Pace - Frightened away from the Sports due to crank failures
Gone - A couple of RRS, A couple of Disco's. However thinking of another Sport.

Mon Sep 19 2016 8:01am

Ady 555
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Location: Good old yorkshire
Posts: 8738

2012 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Santorini Black

Quite a few cyclists in York......

Mon Sep 19 2016 8:03am

muddywheels
Milk Float Man

Member Since: 30 Jun 2010
Location: East Riding of Yorkshire
Posts: 5637

The power is instant thanks to the electric motors (hence Tesla phenomenal 0-60) so by the time the RRS auto stop start and the ZF gearbox wake up I would be gone - I will admit a RRS could catch up and pass me but where I normally drive overtaking is as safe as being a Kamikaze pilot so being in front would give me an advantage Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

Mon Sep 19 2016 8:08am

muddywheels
Milk Float Man

Member Since: 30 Jun 2010
Location: East Riding of Yorkshire
Posts: 5637

Ady 555 wrote:
Quite a few cyclists in York......

Yep - now I can creep up and scare the

out of them

Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

Mon Sep 19 2016 8:09am

SRE

Member Since: 16 Jan 2010
Location: Alicante Prov Spain + Hampshire UK
Posts: 2329

So, to abridge, it was a pushbike going down hill In Spain - 2018 F Pace - Frightened away from the Sports due to crank failures
Gone - A couple of RRS, A couple of Disco's. However thinking of another Sport.

Mon Sep 19 2016 8:23am

Ady 555
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Location: Good old yorkshire
Posts: 8738

Now we have a new Topic
I thought it was only appropriate that Muddys new toy should be the first to be posted.

Mon Sep 19 2016 10:00am

muddywheels
Milk Float Man

Member Since: 30 Jun 2010
Location: East Riding of Yorkshire
Posts: 5637

Mon Sep 19 2016 10:36am

npinks
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New Section new name

Mon Sep 19 2016 11:23am

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