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JKay



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Evoque vs 2010-2012 RRS (Ride & Suspension)

Spent an hour or two as a passenger in a 2014 Evoque last week.

To my surprise I found the ride to be very crashy and harsh, not at all what I would have expected from something with a Range Rover badge (albeit an Evoque which I wasn't a fan of to begin with anyway)

My question: How does the Evoque's ride compare to a 2010-2012 RRS? I'm hoping it won't be the same

I haven't test driven any RRS's yet as I don't intend to until my house purchase is finalised, so would appreciate any feedback from anyone who's had experience of both cars

Thanks

Post #454814 Fri Mar 06 2015 1:54am
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fkarim



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I had an Evoque for a day. As you say the ride is pretty bad. No comparison with ANY year RRS. RRS, Discovery and FFRR have air suspension which other Land Rover models don't. That's what makes the ride much softer in these cars and is the biggest difference. Current: Volvo XC90 T8 Inscription Pro PHEV with some optionals on top
Gone: MY16 RRS2 3.0 SDV6 Autobiography Dynamic, Carpathian Grey & Santorini Black Sliding Pano/Ebony & Ivory 2 Tone
Gone: MY13 RRS 3.0 SDV6 HSE Black Edition, Orkney Grey/Ivory
Gone: MY09 RRS 2.7 TDV6 HSE, Santorini Black/Almond

Post #454818 Fri Mar 06 2015 6:47am
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JKay



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That's good to know. That ride had nearly shattered my Desire to own a Land Rover product. Even my 2009 M3 felt better

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fkarim



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Hmm that doesn't sound right ... I have been in a friend's 2008 M3 a few times and the ride was pretty rough. This was expected of course because the car is meant for things other than comfort. The Evoque I drove was very bad in comparison to a RRS but was certainly softer than an M3. Either the Evoque you experienced had an issue or my friend's M3 has a problem Laughing Current: Volvo XC90 T8 Inscription Pro PHEV with some optionals on top
Gone: MY16 RRS2 3.0 SDV6 Autobiography Dynamic, Carpathian Grey & Santorini Black Sliding Pano/Ebony & Ivory 2 Tone
Gone: MY13 RRS 3.0 SDV6 HSE Black Edition, Orkney Grey/Ivory
Gone: MY09 RRS 2.7 TDV6 HSE, Santorini Black/Almond

Post #454826 Fri Mar 06 2015 8:05am
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muddywheels
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I have owned MY10 and MY13 RRS while being loaned Evoques and there is no comparison - the evoque engine sounds like a bag of spanners and the ride was harsh. I guess you get what you pay for hence the price difference. Will be interesting to see how the new engine improve things reading magazine reports Confused

I've been in a m3 convertible and thought the ride was pretty good especially after his R32 Shocked Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

Post #454828 Fri Mar 06 2015 8:39am
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JKay



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fkarim wrote:
Hmm that doesn't sound right ... I have been in a friend's 2008 M3 a few times and the ride was pretty rough. This was expected of course because the car is meant for things other than comfort. The Evoque I drove was very bad in comparison to a RRS but was certainly softer than an M3. Either the Evoque you experienced had an issue or my friend's M3 has a problem Laughing


Maybe it was due to the fact that in the M3 I was always driving as opposed to being a rear seat passenger in the Evoque.

When I had my electronic damper control on its stiffest setting in the M3 it was a little harsh but in comfort mode it certainly felt better than the Evoque to me.

Agree on the Sound of the Evoque engine. I was told it was the lowest spec/displacement diesel engine (whatever size that may be) and it did indeed sound like a bag of Spanners.

Nevertheless it will still sell very well and always be popular

Post #454833 Fri Mar 06 2015 8:52am
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362bkr



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To me the evoque is about looks and very little else.

Post #454837 Fri Mar 06 2015 9:03am
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JKay



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It's very much horses For courses but I'm Not even too crazy about the Evoque's looks.

It is a pretty car but just doesn't float my
Boat. Not that my opinion will matter anyway as it appeals to many Smile

Post #454840 Fri Mar 06 2015 9:13am
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Ady 555
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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Santorini Black

I had a brand new Evogue last week for a few days, and i thought the ride was better than my 12 plate RRS HSE. Maybe they have tweaked the suspension on the newer cars. It was also quick off the mark too, unlike the RRS. Whistle Would i buy one? No, way over priced for what they are. Plenty more other cars out there, much cheaper and better value.

Post #454923 Fri Mar 06 2015 9:01pm
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fkarim



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Ady 555 the Evoque I used was also brand new at the time (2013) with < 300 miles. Has to be one hell of a tweak to make the ride better than RRS Shocked I had a 2009 pre-facelift RRS back then and there was simply no comparison in ride quality. I would get my suspension checked out if I were you Wink Current: Volvo XC90 T8 Inscription Pro PHEV with some optionals on top
Gone: MY16 RRS2 3.0 SDV6 Autobiography Dynamic, Carpathian Grey & Santorini Black Sliding Pano/Ebony & Ivory 2 Tone
Gone: MY13 RRS 3.0 SDV6 HSE Black Edition, Orkney Grey/Ivory
Gone: MY09 RRS 2.7 TDV6 HSE, Santorini Black/Almond

Post #454932 Fri Mar 06 2015 9:45pm
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Ady 555
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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Santorini Black

Nothing wrong with my suspension Fkarim. That Evogue simply rode the bumps better. But, i have also thought that the RRS has an harsh ride. Whistle

Post #455063 Sat Mar 07 2015 10:34pm
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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Orkney Grey

362bkr wrote:
To me the evoque is about looks and very little else.

S'funny, I found it to be an excellent vehicle with many strong areas. The biggest down side for me was the restricted view out because of the small glass area. If one wanted a capable occasional 4x4 for two people then it ticks lots of boxes. If one wants a family 4x4 then it's way too small.

One thing I did like about the two I drove for a week at a time was the brakes. The brakes were excellent.

The funniest thing about the Evoque is that you get what is basically the RRS2's interior in a much cheaper vehicle. Rolling with laughter 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

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BKHK



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RRS ride at 50mph + is like a magic carpet. Some bump-thump at lower speeds with nasty dips in the road, especially ones with a sharp edge. If you stay on 20s and below you will love the RRS ride compared to almost any other car. If you go 22s, it will be like the M3 Laughing

Don't be put off. The RRS is a great vehicle and rides very well, nothing like the EWOK which is, as Muddy says, like a bag of spanners in the engine department.

Post #455082 Sun Mar 08 2015 9:02am
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RRSTDV8



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Orkney Grey

It'll be interesting to see what the new 2 litre engine does to residuals on the old 2.2. The new engine will give better economy, refinement and "go" as I understand it. Certainly the old 2.2 was never the most economical or refined lump but it's not as bad as some people like to make out. Certainly seems to be more reliable than the bigger units in the RRS! 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

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muddywheels
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A local dealer told me they had to refund one early Ewok owner because the fuel consumption was so far away from the claimed figures and he was going to make it into a crusade he was so angry Rolling Eyes

I've actually found my consumption pretty close to claimed figures on all my LR's over the years - certainly closer than the fairy tale figures claimed on our 2012 Mini One Evil or Very Mad Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

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