I have Trackers on my toys. Excellent (although expensive) bits of kit, a great alarm call and response centre, but woefully useless sales team. 

Mark_N wrote:

Weasel words and the company line.

Quite right! 2023 P440e SE Dynamic on order -cancelled

2022 HSE Dynamic P400e

2017 Discovery 3.0 HSE Silicon Silver Nimbus interior and a few extra toys SOLD

2013 HSE Black, Orkney Grey, Ebony Seats and Ivory Interior SOLD

2006 HSE

Plus a few other cars inbetween!

I tell it as I see it. My view - and I am an engineer so understand the issues - is that given the reported key cloning vulnerability of the car, a Cat 6 tracker is not fit for purpose because it doesn't alarm when the car moves with a cloned key.

It remains to be seen whether my insurance company will cover my SVR which is said to be arriving shortly without the additional protection of a Cat 5 tracker or at all.

Land Rover could have implemented Cat 5 from the outset but their penny-pinching has lead to a Cat 6 instead. They may of course move to Cat 5 in the future.

As an interim, they could do worse than factory fit a Cobra tracker to avoid the need for the car to come apart in the after-market. Mark

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It wouldn't take much to programme InControl Secure to alarm if the car moved without the phone being connected via Bluetooth? i.e. make the phone a fob. 

Well that's an interesting suggestion - the phone after all has a unique hardware ID though whether that is available across the BT connection, I do not know. You'd also have to provide a secure way of pairing the phone to the car which couldn't be hacked. Mark

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It would be pretty secure if InControl only accepted one paired phone at a time and unpairing had to be done from either the paired phone or from the InControl Secure Centre. 

This is exactly the system I had on my V8 Vantages, Coupe then Roadster. It came with a bluetooth fob but you could call the call centre whilst sat in the car and have your bluetooth mobile configured to act as the fob instead.

It was ideal as I'd always have my phone on me when driving and never had to worry about forgetting the fob - especially as the advice was to not store the keys with the fob, in case someone broke into your house for the keys.

This would surely be relatively straight forward to implement with InSecure (as I prefer to currently call it!). Might be challenge with more than one regular driver (with different mobiles) but in those cases then you use the fob. SOLD - 15 plate Estoril SVR

SOLD - 64 plate Aleutian Silver Supercharged

SOLD - 63 plate Corris SDV6 Autobiography

My insurance company are refusing to cover the car at all at the moment. It would be in a private underground garage in London with CCTV, two sets of security gates/shutters and 24 hour security.

As I have said, the security of this car is not fit for purpose. Mark

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Which insurers, and what are they asking for? Or, if a refusal outright, you can store it in my garage and I'll look after it for you.  

Admiral. Tough to know whether it's because the car is new or because of the car itself. At the moment, no quote. Mark

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I have just been checking prices for a new Autobiography and Admiral would insure me with or without a tracker.

But then my Post Code is in Devon!  2023 P440e SE Dynamic on order -cancelled

2022 HSE Dynamic P400e

2017 Discovery 3.0 HSE Silicon Silver Nimbus interior and a few extra toys SOLD

2013 HSE Black, Orkney Grey, Ebony Seats and Ivory Interior SOLD

2006 HSE

Plus a few other cars inbetween!

Well that is good news... Mark

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I guess London is the big problem, with tracker less than £300, without under £400. 2023 P440e SE Dynamic on order -cancelled

2022 HSE Dynamic P400e

2017 Discovery 3.0 HSE Silicon Silver Nimbus interior and a few extra toys SOLD

2013 HSE Black, Orkney Grey, Ebony Seats and Ivory Interior SOLD

2006 HSE

Plus a few other cars inbetween!

Admiral were quoting me 900 pounds a year. Admittedly for an HSE rather than SVR. And I live in London.

Agree that LR really need to address their security given than in control is only cat 6.
I'd be interested to know how many of the RRSs stolen in London have been successfully tracked and retrieved using in control.

Dealers are clueless to help - their best suggestion was to get a crook lock!

I can't undestand why LR don't offer an option without a keyless go! Mercedes do!