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djsaad1



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United States 2006 Range Rover Sport Supercharged Java Black

dont have the car yet, but i beleive the spare on both the supercharged and the hse is 19 inch. So I guess you cant count that as full size on the supercharged.

Post #4388 Mon Oct 31 2005 6:48pm
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Tim in Scotland



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2013 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Stornoway Grey

rgbyhkr wrote:
Just so it doesn't get lost in the fray, I wanted to ask it again. Is the RRS spare full-size?

Jeff


Jeff it depends on the market that the car is being sold in - here in the UK we all have a full sized spare - some have a steel wheel on it others an alloy that matches the other 4. 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - soon to be replaced
2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

Post #4389 Mon Oct 31 2005 6:55pm
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Frank



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tasmond

Rob,
I think what was rude about RRUKs' post was highlighting the word 'completely' in his opening sentence replying to a new member. He then went on to say 'Considering your negativity towards the brand I am surprised you have one.' which shows a missunderstanding on RRUK part and again quite rude.
RRUK is happy to talk negative when it suits him and change topics within topics but doesn't like anyone having a different opinion to him.
However most of the members are fair and there's a whole new bunch recently joined so should get interesting.
I will certainly be encouraging one or two owners to join.

Hey let's not kid ourselves though, I don't think many of us bought the Sport thinking it was going to be reliable in the long term, there's already too many problems within the first few thousand miles for me! as well as many members here I see!

Post #4391 Mon Oct 31 2005 9:13pm
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wolfdog



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On the JD Power report, Jaguar was second. How about if you guys research on who made the engine on the RRS. Shocked Let me tell you Jaguar.
I don't think I can explain in words, how I feel about my new RRS.
I enjoy it on my own and I do not want anyone to know because they get jelouse. Laughing Ex owner of ML320 and ML55.

Post #4393 Mon Oct 31 2005 9:18pm
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Frank



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Sorry Rgbyhkr,
How rude of me,
I meant to mention don't forget (as if you would) there's £15000 difference between the RR SC and the RRS SC. What's that in bux about 25,000.
Does make the new Sport good value for money. At least you seem to comprehend why people continue to buy LR regardless of their poor track record on reliabillity.

Post #4394 Mon Oct 31 2005 9:26pm
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Tim in Scotland



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Rob, I'm in the same boat as you - in ten years of owning Disco S1 V8, S2 TD5, Freelander TD4, Defender Tdi300, RR and now RRS I have had one occassion that I neede to call out the Land Rover assistance guy and that was on the day I was taking in my TD5 Disco to hand over for the Freelander and the auxy drive belt on the TD5 parted about 6 miles from the dealership. I still have my Tdi 300 defender, it is 9 years old and just keeps on going depsite only being used as my offroading toy and getting really hammered. It gets serviced annually by the local non franchise Land Rover specialistjust before it's MOT and covers about 3000 offroad miles a year. It leaks a little in places but then it is a working vehicle and not a luxo barge so I don't might the odd drip into the footwell!
I don't expect my Land Rovers to be unreliable or to breakdown,I would not buy a car that I knew to be unreliable (this is one reason why I have never bought a BMW, several of my neighbours have had nothing but trouble with X5's, late 3 series and 7 series BMs and also with recent MBs) in my experience Land Rovers are as reliable as most other makes of car and a lot more reliable than some.. 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - soon to be replaced
2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

Post #4395 Mon Oct 31 2005 9:37pm
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rgbyhkr



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Frank wrote:
Sorry Rgbyhkr,
How rude of me,
I meant to mention don't forget (as if you would) there's £15000 difference between the RR SC and the RRS SC. What's that in bux about 25,000.
Does make the new Sport good value for money. At least you seem to comprehend why people continue to buy LR regardless of their poor track record on reliabillity.


Well, in the US, the difference between the HSE and SC is $13K (petrol versions - diesel models aren't offered here). If I did go with the HSE, I would opt for the SC wheels (a $4K option) and the luxury interior package ($2.75K). Additionally, I would be interested in the dynamic response option depending on the availability date. So, adding all those up really closes the price gap between the 2 versions and made the SC an easy choice.

And yes, I understand why people may be willing to accept poorer reliability to get vehicles like these.

Jeff

Post #4408 Tue Nov 01 2005 4:19am
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sportman



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United Arab Emirates 2006 Range Rover Sport Supercharged Buckingham Blue

Hello,
I believe that this forum is a great tool to discuss and share experience though I have a doubt is any of all these common issues like vibration, air suspensions faults and more …are bringing to LR attention? Is there any big improvement from the first addition vehicles till the current models if yes what are these improvement
RRS is a great and expensive toy to have..so if you pay 70K you expect the top quality and reliability
So does LR prove that in RRS/D3 ? I have a big question mark

Post #4409 Tue Nov 01 2005 4:58am
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MDP



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Hi Jeff, I have the RRS Supercharged & 20" wheels but the spare is on a steel 19" affair with rubber to suit. 
" WITH MORE EXTRAS THAN A HOLLYWOOD EPIC "

Post #4417 Tue Nov 01 2005 9:44am
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kam100



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several of my neighbours have had nothing but trouble with X5's, late 3 series and 7 series BMs and also with recent MBs) in my experience Land Rovers are as reliable as most other makes of car and a lot more reliable than some..


I agree with this statement, my RRS is no more "unreliable" then any car i've had or my family have had, just a few examples:

Our 7 series had a transmission error and had to be recovered home on a flat bed (how embarrassing!) a week after we first purchased it.

My 3 x 3 series were in and out the service bay with small niggling issues all the time, i owned each variety; coupe, saloon and convertible, various stages in the E46 life with varying engines, and the more technology they gained the more things that could go wrong and did go wrong.

Our Lexus sound system cocked up and swallowed and wrecked a load of CD's.. i think you'll find as lexus increase production and target a larger customer base across Europe, their level of build may start to fall, they don't make enough money on after sales at the moment, so will be likely to follow Bmw's model which yields over £1m profit per day on parts and service in the UK alone!

Our Audi A4 1.8t needed its valve coil things changed on the VW mass recall and we had a Vauxhall Vectra hire car for a good 4 months while they cleared the backlog!

My Brother in laws X5 3.0d's turbo blew up, requiring about £4k worth of remedial work (pre facelift model) by Bmw.

Etc etc.. Won't even start on our 1998 W140 Mercedes S Class which had a mind of its own and couldn't even be controlled by Merc Technicians who took it apart on our drive and office forecourt twice! The back brake lights needed changing about 2ice a month too.. electrical nightmare!

Cars have problems, im sure we could keep this thread open for ever hearing everyones tales.. with the RRS we may be experiencing more then normal just because its a new model, its gonna have issues isn't it..

If you don't want to live with it, don't buy a new model, buy it after its had its mid life facelift, then everything should be more or less sorted, or every problem has already been given a solution or a fix.

Just for the record, i use my powerfold mirrors and drop my suspension every single time i get in and out my RRS about 3/4 times a day, and on my example which is an 05 plated example, im still riding on the original compressor and my mirrors are still folding in and out on request!

Post #4420 Tue Nov 01 2005 10:52am
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rgbyhkr



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I've been pretty lucky with vehicles over the years. My current MB 2004 S55, while having been involved in 2 accidents within the first 9 months (low-speed rear ender and a deer ran into the side of it), has only had one issue that required service. The multifunction display went bad and had to be replaced. Unfortunately, the nature of the failure forced the car into a limp home mode which essentially made it unusable for everyday driving (I was able to get it to the dealership without assistance). The bigger problem was parts availability. Since the display was back-ordered from Germany, it took them 3 weeks to get it. Ah well, the things you put up with for a vehicle you love. Very Happy

Jeff

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rgbyhkr



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MDP wrote:
Hi Jeff, I have the RRS Supercharged & 20" wheels but the spare is on a steel 19" affair with rubber to suit.


Huh, that's kind of interesting. I guess that would qualify as a more limited use spare then as I wouldn't think having a size mismatch would be a good idea to drive around with for an extended length of time. Still better than one of those funky looking spares that some vehicles have. No big deal though.

Jeff


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Post #4443 Tue Nov 01 2005 12:09pm
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My Brother in laws X5 3.0d's turbo blew up, requiring about £4k worth of remedial work (pre facelift model) by Bmw.




Mine to. Rolling Eyes Its out there somewhere. Second V10 Treg on the drive at the moment.

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MDP



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rgbyhkr wrote:
MDP wrote:
Hi Jeff, I have the RRS Supercharged & 20" wheels but the spare is on a steel 19" affair with rubber to suit.


Huh, that's kind of interesting. I guess that would qualify as a more limited use spare then as I wouldn't think having a size mismatch would be a good idea to drive around with for an extended length of time. Still better than one of those funky looking spares that some vehicles have. No big deal though.

Jeff


Jeff, to be precise the standard fit wheel/tyre to the Supercharged is a 20" alloy wheel fitted with 275/40/R20 tyres

The spare is a 19" steel wheel fitted with 255/50/R19

if needed... the spare would have the same rolling road circumference so would not cause a problem to the drivability of the car. I presume they do this as it takes up less space underneath ( 2cm to be precise ) 
" WITH MORE EXTRAS THAN A HOLLYWOOD EPIC "

Post #4477 Tue Nov 01 2005 3:55pm
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rgbyhkr



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MDP wrote:
rgbyhkr wrote:
MDP wrote:
Hi Jeff, I have the RRS Supercharged & 20" wheels but the spare is on a steel 19" affair with rubber to suit.


Huh, that's kind of interesting. I guess that would qualify as a more limited use spare then as I wouldn't think having a size mismatch would be a good idea to drive around with for an extended length of time. Still better than one of those funky looking spares that some vehicles have. No big deal though.

Jeff


Jeff, to be precise the standard fit wheel/tyre to the Supercharged is a 20" alloy wheel fitted with 275/40/R20 tyres

The spare is a 19" steel wheel fitted with 255/50/R19

if needed... the spare would have the same rolling road circumference so would not cause a problem to the drivability of the car. I presume they do this as it takes up less space underneath ( 2cm to be precise )


Thanks for the clarification. I would agree that, yes, the space savings is the reason.

Jeff

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