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Tim in Scotland Member Since: 30 May 2005 Location: Driving along in my automobile Posts: 17476 |
Jeff it depends on the market that the car is being sold in - here in the UK we all have a full sized spare - some have a steel wheel on it others an alloy that matches the other 4. 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it 2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - soon to be replaced 2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW |
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Mon Oct 31 2005 6:55pm |
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Frank Member Since: 31 Oct 2005 Location: Leigh-on-Sea Posts: 10 |
Rob,
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Mon Oct 31 2005 9:13pm |
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wolfdog Member Since: 26 Sep 2005 Location: new jersey Posts: 6 |
On the JD Power report, Jaguar was second. How about if you guys research on who made the engine on the RRS. Let me tell you Jaguar.
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Mon Oct 31 2005 9:18pm |
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Frank Member Since: 31 Oct 2005 Location: Leigh-on-Sea Posts: 10 |
Sorry Rgbyhkr,
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Mon Oct 31 2005 9:26pm |
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Tim in Scotland Member Since: 30 May 2005 Location: Driving along in my automobile Posts: 17476 |
Rob, I'm in the same boat as you - in ten years of owning Disco S1 V8, S2 TD5, Freelander TD4, Defender Tdi300, RR and now RRS I have had one occassion that I neede to call out the Land Rover assistance guy and that was on the day I was taking in my TD5 Disco to hand over for the Freelander and the auxy drive belt on the TD5 parted about 6 miles from the dealership. I still have my Tdi 300 defender, it is 9 years old and just keeps on going depsite only being used as my offroading toy and getting really hammered. It gets serviced annually by the local non franchise Land Rover specialistjust before it's MOT and covers about 3000 offroad miles a year. It leaks a little in places but then it is a working vehicle and not a luxo barge so I don't might the odd drip into the footwell!
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Mon Oct 31 2005 9:37pm |
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rgbyhkr Member Since: 30 Oct 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 36 |
Well, in the US, the difference between the HSE and SC is $13K (petrol versions - diesel models aren't offered here). If I did go with the HSE, I would opt for the SC wheels (a $4K option) and the luxury interior package ($2.75K). Additionally, I would be interested in the dynamic response option depending on the availability date. So, adding all those up really closes the price gap between the 2 versions and made the SC an easy choice. And yes, I understand why people may be willing to accept poorer reliability to get vehicles like these. Jeff |
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Tue Nov 01 2005 4:19am |
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sportman Member Since: 25 Jul 2005 Location: UAE Posts: 550 |
Hello,
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Tue Nov 01 2005 4:58am |
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MDP Member Since: 14 Jun 2005 Location: Back in an AUDI Posts: 8598 |
Hi Jeff, I have the RRS Supercharged & 20" wheels but the spare is on a steel 19" affair with rubber to suit.
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Tue Nov 01 2005 9:44am |
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kam100 Member Since: 28 Sep 2005 Location: In my office doing quotes!! Posts: 4771 |
I agree with this statement, my RRS is no more "unreliable" then any car i've had or my family have had, just a few examples: Our 7 series had a transmission error and had to be recovered home on a flat bed (how embarrassing!) a week after we first purchased it. My 3 x 3 series were in and out the service bay with small niggling issues all the time, i owned each variety; coupe, saloon and convertible, various stages in the E46 life with varying engines, and the more technology they gained the more things that could go wrong and did go wrong. Our Lexus sound system cocked up and swallowed and wrecked a load of CD's.. i think you'll find as lexus increase production and target a larger customer base across Europe, their level of build may start to fall, they don't make enough money on after sales at the moment, so will be likely to follow Bmw's model which yields over £1m profit per day on parts and service in the UK alone! Our Audi A4 1.8t needed its valve coil things changed on the VW mass recall and we had a Vauxhall Vectra hire car for a good 4 months while they cleared the backlog! My Brother in laws X5 3.0d's turbo blew up, requiring about £4k worth of remedial work (pre facelift model) by Bmw. Etc etc.. Won't even start on our 1998 W140 Mercedes S Class which had a mind of its own and couldn't even be controlled by Merc Technicians who took it apart on our drive and office forecourt twice! The back brake lights needed changing about 2ice a month too.. electrical nightmare! Cars have problems, im sure we could keep this thread open for ever hearing everyones tales.. with the RRS we may be experiencing more then normal just because its a new model, its gonna have issues isn't it.. If you don't want to live with it, don't buy a new model, buy it after its had its mid life facelift, then everything should be more or less sorted, or every problem has already been given a solution or a fix. Just for the record, i use my powerfold mirrors and drop my suspension every single time i get in and out my RRS about 3/4 times a day, and on my example which is an 05 plated example, im still riding on the original compressor and my mirrors are still folding in and out on request! |
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Tue Nov 01 2005 10:52am |
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rgbyhkr Member Since: 30 Oct 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 36 |
I've been pretty lucky with vehicles over the years. My current MB 2004 S55, while having been involved in 2 accidents within the first 9 months (low-speed rear ender and a deer ran into the side of it), has only had one issue that required service. The multifunction display went bad and had to be replaced. Unfortunately, the nature of the failure forced the car into a limp home mode which essentially made it unusable for everyday driving (I was able to get it to the dealership without assistance). The bigger problem was parts availability. Since the display was back-ordered from Germany, it took them 3 weeks to get it. Ah well, the things you put up with for a vehicle you love.
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Tue Nov 01 2005 12:06pm |
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rgbyhkr Member Since: 30 Oct 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 36 |
Huh, that's kind of interesting. I guess that would qualify as a more limited use spare then as I wouldn't think having a size mismatch would be a good idea to drive around with for an extended length of time. Still better than one of those funky looking spares that some vehicles have. No big deal though. Jeff Last edited by rgbyhkr on Tue Nov 01 2005 12:21pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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Tue Nov 01 2005 12:09pm |
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Biggles Member Since: 26 May 2005 Location: Preston, Posts: 916 |
Mine to. Its out there somewhere. Second V10 Treg on the drive at the moment. |
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Tue Nov 01 2005 12:16pm |
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MDP Member Since: 14 Jun 2005 Location: Back in an AUDI Posts: 8598 |
Jeff, to be precise the standard fit wheel/tyre to the Supercharged is a 20" alloy wheel fitted with 275/40/R20 tyres The spare is a 19" steel wheel fitted with 255/50/R19 if needed... the spare would have the same rolling road circumference so would not cause a problem to the drivability of the car. I presume they do this as it takes up less space underneath ( 2cm to be precise ) " WITH MORE EXTRAS THAN A HOLLYWOOD EPIC " |
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Tue Nov 01 2005 3:55pm |
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rgbyhkr Member Since: 30 Oct 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 36 |
Thanks for the clarification. I would agree that, yes, the space savings is the reason. Jeff |
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Tue Nov 01 2005 4:03pm |
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