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RRSTDV8



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Orkney Grey

When did they stop fitting the 4-pot Brembo calipers to TDV8s? The spec says Brembo brakes but the picture appears to be standard-looking caliper.

Having suffered from TDV8 turbo-bang, I'd be tempted to look at the SDV6 instead. The same performance (as near as makes no difference), better fuel economy and fewer tales of engine-related expenses. 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

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peterg1965



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Buckingham Blue

Thanks, I know it's easy to be swayed by the horror stories you read in the internet, but the TDV8 turbo failures are a worry.
What draws me to this car is not the engine, but the colour, side steps, finance price, locality, looks. The engine is not one I necessarily want, I think I would be happier with an SDV6.....

Post #437266 Sun Sep 21 2014 8:00am
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Andi



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RRSTDV8 wrote:
When did they stop fitting the 4-pot Brembo calipers to TDV8s? The spec says Brembo brakes but the picture appears to be standard-looking caliper.

Having suffered from TDV8 turbo-bang, I'd be tempted to look at the SDV6 instead. The same performance (as near as makes no difference), better fuel economy and fewer tales of engine-related expenses.


I think I read that they are still Brambo's but without the logo!

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simple1



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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Cairns Blue

My advice is the same as previously offered, look at a different model. The V8 engine and turbos in a Sport are too fragile and to be honest was the final nail in the coffin of not buying a new £89000 SDV8. I have zero faith in the engine set up and I believe there have been a couple of "issues" with the new model. The old model was great but the lack of build quality and reliability would put me off. I know there are plenty out there that have never had any issues but experience and then this forum and others tells its own story. 2x TDV6. SE and HSE. Both returned to sender with issues👀
TDV8 Sport HSE...... Gone. Loved it but it didn't love me!!
Now rolling in MY10 Fullfat TDV8 Vogue. Slammed it to go round corners🙈
Cruising daily #56 mph in a Volvo V8. 😱
Lots of other toys in the cupboard...😜

Post #437272 Sun Sep 21 2014 9:15am
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I had the same concerns when I bought mine 6 months ago but I drove three different 3.0 TDV6's but had already been spoilt by test driving a TDV8 which performed far better than the TDV6's. So far, I have had no problems with the car at all and I hope that a combination of regular oil changes, careful warm up/cool down and the landrover warranty will avoid me having to dip into my pocket.

I agree that an SDV8 would probably be the ideal but they were too expensive when I bought mine.

Either way, they are fantastic cars.

Post #437274 Sun Sep 21 2014 9:28am
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simple1



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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Cairns Blue

Having owned mine from new, had it serviced at less than mileage and treated it well, it still shat itself at 48000 miles, gave years of problems and numerous arguments I'm pleased to say I don't own it. I hate the barge, and will change it next year once I recover from buying a new lorry Big Cry which was an unexpected purchase this year. The only problem is what I replace it with Whistle 2x TDV6. SE and HSE. Both returned to sender with issues👀
TDV8 Sport HSE...... Gone. Loved it but it didn't love me!!
Now rolling in MY10 Fullfat TDV8 Vogue. Slammed it to go round corners🙈
Cruising daily #56 mph in a Volvo V8. 😱
Lots of other toys in the cupboard...😜

Post #437276 Sun Sep 21 2014 9:43am
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RRSTDV8



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Orkney Grey

peterg1965 wrote:
Thanks, I know it's easy to be swayed by the horror stories you read in the internet, but the TDV8 turbo failures are a worry.
What draws me to this car is not the engine, but the colour, side steps, finance price, locality, looks. The engine is not one I necessarily want, I think I would be happier with an SDV6.....

My advice would be to wait for exactly the right car for you. Don't rush buy.

colour - lots of black out there (it's probably the most popular colour),
side steps are an easy and cheap retro-fit item so shouldn't be an issue,
finance price - to be brutally honest, if the price is a deal breaker then you'll possibly find the cost of ownership to be too high. Even with a warranty there are things that aren't covered but do fail e.g. suspension bushes. Also, the TDV8 is fairly thirsty - especially compared to the SDV6. Around town you're realistically looking at 20-22mpg if you're gentle, less if you do short runs. If you do short runs then the TDV8 isn't the right vehicle - they like to be warmed up and cooled down. The temptation to open the taps when it's still cold can lead to problems as already mentioned.
locality - it's always worth travelling for the right car,
looks - they all look pretty much the same and can easily be tweaked later on as many on here have done.

If you think you'd be happier with the SDV6 (and it's a fine engine) then I'd wait for the right one with that lump up front.

Good luck with your purchase, whatever you end up with Thumbs Up 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

Post #437277 Sun Sep 21 2014 9:46am
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Andi



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simple1 wrote:
My advice is the same as previously offered, look at a different model. The V8 engine and turbos in a Sport are too fragile and to be honest was the final nail in the coffin of not buying a new £89000 SDV8. I have zero faith in the engine set up and I believe there have been a couple of "issues" with the new model. The old model was great but the lack of build quality and reliability would put me off. I know there are plenty out there that have never had any issues but experience and then this forum and others tells its own story.


Although, back in May you did say;

Well....that's a no then. According to the "salesman", a 2009 Sport is worth £7800 more than a 2010 Vogue. That will be a no then, time to cast the net wider. What I did learn is that I couldn't live with V6 of any sort, so V8 it will be.

You came very close to another one!

Post #437283 Sun Sep 21 2014 10:23am
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simple1



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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Cairns Blue

Heart and brain....... Brain wins Whistle
Make no secret that I love the Sports but can't be doing with the Agro. It's a bit like a supermodel girlfriend, looks good but a pain in the arse behind closed doors Rolling with laughter 2x TDV6. SE and HSE. Both returned to sender with issues👀
TDV8 Sport HSE...... Gone. Loved it but it didn't love me!!
Now rolling in MY10 Fullfat TDV8 Vogue. Slammed it to go round corners🙈
Cruising daily #56 mph in a Volvo V8. 😱
Lots of other toys in the cupboard...😜

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peterg1965



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Buckingham Blue

RRSTDV8 wrote:
peterg1965 wrote:
Thanks, I know it's easy to be swayed by the horror stories you read in the internet, but the TDV8 turbo failures are a worry.
What draws me to this car is not the engine, but the colour, side steps, finance price, locality, looks. The engine is not one I necessarily want, I think I would be happier with an SDV6.....

My advice would be to wait for exactly the right car for you. Don't rush buy.

colour - lots of black out there (it's probably the most popular colour),
side steps are an easy and cheap retro-fit item so shouldn't be an issue,
finance price - to be brutally honest, if the price is a deal breaker then you'll possibly find the cost of ownership to be too high. Even with a warranty there are things that aren't covered but do fail e.g. suspension bushes. Also, the TDV8 is fairly thirsty - especially compared to the SDV6. Around town you're realistically looking at 20-22mpg if you're gentle, less if you do short runs. If you do short runs then the TDV8 isn't the right vehicle - they like to be warmed up and cooled down. The temptation to open the taps when it's still cold can lead to problems as already mentioned.
locality - it's always worth travelling for the right car,
looks - they all look pretty much the same and can easily be tweaked later on as many on here have done.

If you think you'd be happier with the SDV6 (and it's a fine engine) then I'd wait for the right one with that lump up front.

Good luck with your purchase, whatever you end up with Thumbs Up


Thanks all.

Its a hard call, but i am going to look at the TDV8 anyway, just to make sure I am making the right choice generally. Current car is a 2010 X5 35d, the X5 is just out of (AUC) warranty and I am seeking a slightly cheaper finance package, plus a new car will come with a manufacturer backed warranty (one or two years). The newer SDV6 appeals with the 8 speed box (?) with rotary gear knob, most will have a bit of manufacturers warranty with them too.

Post #437287 Sun Sep 21 2014 10:38am
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Andi



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simple1 wrote:
Heart and brain....... Brain wins Whistle
Make no secret that I love the Sports but can't be doing with the Agro. It's a bit like a supermodel girlfriend, looks good but a pain in the arse behind closed doors Rolling with laughter


Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter

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peterg1965



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Buckingham Blue

Looked at the TDV8 but didn't drive it. To be honest its a no go for me, graphite wheels not to my taste, not sure if they are OEM LR to be honest, they must be i guess. It looked too 'gangster' for me and I have been put off by the V8 diesel. We only do fairly low miles , about 6000 per year, and my wife will do lots of short journeys, so maybe not the sort of profile you should have for an otherwise problematic big diesel engine

…. I'll keep on looking

ETA..it did not have wheels which are shown in the advert….

Post #437307 Sun Sep 21 2014 12:27pm
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simple1



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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Cairns Blue

Nothing wrong with gangster, but agree you won't be doing yourself any favours with short mileage and big engine, you should look at a petrol, if I had it all to do again probably have gone that route. Only downside is that my fuel card wouldn't allow me to buy petrol so went for diesel but even now I only ever put a tank of fuel in car every other month, the trade off from buying a Sport that kept breaking down was that I eventually went out and bought a L200 as I never had a tow vehicle when I needed one Big Cry and Sport was in being fixed........😂🔫 2x TDV6. SE and HSE. Both returned to sender with issues👀
TDV8 Sport HSE...... Gone. Loved it but it didn't love me!!
Now rolling in MY10 Fullfat TDV8 Vogue. Slammed it to go round corners🙈
Cruising daily #56 mph in a Volvo V8. 😱
Lots of other toys in the cupboard...😜

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peterg1965



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Buckingham Blue

are the big petrols (5.0 and 4.2 S/C I guess) really really bad on fuel compared with the v6/v8 diesel?

I wonder if they are comparatively cheaper than the diesel versions, must go off and do some research I think.

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simple1



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United Kingdom 2007 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Cairns Blue

Petrols will be cheaper to buy due to reduced demand but also harder to sell. In the 8 years I've been a forum member I can't think of any reports of engine problems. Razz 2x TDV6. SE and HSE. Both returned to sender with issues👀
TDV8 Sport HSE...... Gone. Loved it but it didn't love me!!
Now rolling in MY10 Fullfat TDV8 Vogue. Slammed it to go round corners🙈
Cruising daily #56 mph in a Volvo V8. 😱
Lots of other toys in the cupboard...😜


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