I'm keeping my eye on facelift RR Sport prices for when I do buy one next year and while doing so I've come across a strange situation; you can now buy a facelift Sport (albeit up on miles) for less than £20k, yet there are people advertising pre-facelifts with the facelift conversion (so still a 2005-2009 model) for more than the proper facelift models! How's that work then?!

Disclaimer: I realise people can advertise their vehicles for £100k over normal retail price if they want but I just fail to see how a pre-facelift conversion can actually be worth more than the model it imitates!

Some Face lifted models will have newer components ie wings - bumpers & newer version Lights ( Black Edition - not grey ) also these new components are predominately Autobiography spec not the standard HSE. I have recently sold mine but at a price that in my opinion was right. 10MY Sports do have the better interior - but I agree with you to a point some sellers are living in a dream world.

Good luck with your search  16MY Estoril Blue SVR.............
17MY Autobiography Dynamic - Corris Grey - WOW.
14MY Autobiography Dynamic - SDV6 - Fuji White
12MY Autobiography - SDV6 - Santorini Black - Dual View - Rear Entertainment - Sunroof.
12MY Autobiography - SDV6 - Orkney Grey - awesome ;(
2005 Java Black - 4.2 V8 Supercharged First Edition- will never be forgotten ;(

As a side bar, it amases me what some folk think their cars are worth. Having done the dealer circles and been told my car is worth frig all yet theirs is a kings ransom, I too started trawling the small ads to seek a more balanced figure to change, and like SPX, found 2006-2007 at 5000 plus more than they should be regardless that owners spent 3-4k face lifting their cars. Personally, I prefer a 100% standard car that I can then choose what I do to enhance/individualise. Even with a face lift kit fitted, there are far to many other telltale signs the car is 7-10 years old and not 5 years or less.
Buyers choice I suppose. 2x TDV6. SE and HSE. Both returned to sender with issues👀
TDV8 Sport HSE...... Gone. Loved it but it didn't love me!!
Now rolling in MY10 Fullfat TDV8 Vogue. Slammed it to go round corners🙈
Cruising daily #56 mph in a Volvo V8. 😱
Lots of other toys in the cupboard...😜

SPX wrote:

you can now buy a facelift Sport (albeit up on miles) for less than £20k

Really? I'm surprised by that! 2016 VW Golf GTD DSG
2007 Exige S British GT SE
Gone : 2011 3.0TDV6 HSE, Stornoway Grey, Ivory, Piano Black Trim, Paddleshift, Privacy Glass, Side Steps, Mud Flaps, Heated Steering Wheel, Timed Climate & Remote Park Heating

I would like to find one at £20,000. Thats what i got PX for my 2008 HSE 78000 miler itisme

The advert looks like it has gone now but there was a facelift 3.6 TDV8 HSE with 130k miles on Auto Trader for £19,995.

If you got £20k part exchange for an '08 HSE with 78k on, the trader most have been drunk or on drugs.

How about this one? :

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&...mp;alt=web 2014 L405 SDV8 RR Autobiography

2012 RRS SDV6 HSE -Orkney Grey with A/B bodykit - Now Gone
2007 RRS TDV6 HSE - Zermatt Silver - Gone

SPX wrote:

The advert looks like it has gone now but there was a facelift 3.6 TDV8 HSE with 130k miles on Auto Trader for £19,995.

SPX wrote:

If you got £20k part exchange for an '08 HSE with 78k on, the trader most have been drunk or on drugs.

An '09 with 49k miles isn't in the same ballpark value wise as a 59 plate (iirc) facelift TDV8 with 130k on.

^^^ Exactly my point: shouldn't a 59 plate facelift V8 even with 130k miles be dearer than 09 plate pre-facelift V6 with 49k miles? Or the high mileage really makes such a huge difference to wipe out the gains of V8 over V6 and of new interior vs old?

Mileage is about 75% of a vehicles value; a lot of people come out in a cold sweat at a car that hits 100k miles, hence the strength for 'low' mileage prices.

I'm not fussed about mileage, as long as there's good history and the previous owner comes across as a decent chap (and all the tyres are matching premium brands... )

I am sure you will find what you're looking for at a good price. Facelift RRS1 will take a hit soon even if it hasn't already

SPX wrote:

An '09 with 49k miles isn't in the same ballpark value wise as a 59 plate (iirc) facelift TDV8 with 130k on.

Apologies if that came across the wrong way but in my experience, car traders value vehicles based on three things;

1. Mileage.
2. Service history.
3. Spec.

I have part exchanged a fair few near-mint vehicles and it made almost little to no difference to the valuation.

So for a car dealer to pay you £3,300 MORE than this dealer has got one up for sale for with very similar mileage;
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261476861734, excuse me if I say there's something wrong.