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Chrisr1806



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Brand new RRS crash!

Originally posted by Stevie5tapes on Freel2.com; Whistle

Stevie5tapes wrote:
Brand new RRS has been in a bump and the fire brigade has taken the roof off. Only done 400 miles!

http://www.examiner.co.uk/news/west-yorksh...ed-6314306
 Arrived: MY16 A/B SDV6 in Aruba, Ivory interior, piano black trim, black panoramic roof, spare wheel, blind spot monitoring, mudlaps and more... Twisted Evil

Gone but not forgotten:
2014 RRS2 SDV6 HSE in Loire Blue
2011 Freelander 2 SD4 HSE in Santorini Black

Post #402703 Mon Nov 18 2013 2:41pm
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MisterAdam



Member Since: 03 May 2012
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United Kingdom 2006 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Bonatti Grey

400 miles bloody hell, it won't of even lost its new car smell yet Shocked Current: 06 RR Sport HSE TDV6, Bonatti grey, black leather. Defender 90 pick up. Vito 110cdi

Previous: Mercedes CLS, BMW 330cd M sport, Nissan 200sx, Impreza STi, EP3 Civic Type R

Post #402707 Mon Nov 18 2013 3:02pm
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corrisgrey



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What a waste, I can smell more than a whiff of elf and safety overkill Shocked

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muddywheels
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Minor smash - my Censored

Note to self - get all passengers out of vehicle before calling 999 Whistle

Wow - they must of got a good deal if only £50k Rolling Eyes

Quote:
It was only a minor smash but this £50,000 4x4 was turned into an convertible by rescuers.
 Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!


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Post #402709 Mon Nov 18 2013 3:08pm
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Beancounter_74



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I can here the firemen now.....
"Hey Dave, have we chopped the roof off a new RRS yet"
"No mate"
"Right guys, we're going to need to cutting equipment, you stay there love, we'll have you out in a minute".......[ensuing laughter] ON THE WAY: BMW F21 M140i
MERCEDES GL350 - Metallic Navy Blue w/Grey interior

GOING: BMW F31 335D MSport+ xDrive Touring
GONE: Land Rover Discovery 4 HSE - Stornaway Grey w/Black Interior (wish we'd kept it Banging Head )
GONE: BMW F10 520D MSport - Carbon Black
GONE:MY12 RRS SDV6 HSE Sumatra/Ivory/Grand Black Privacy glass

Post #402713 Mon Nov 18 2013 3:15pm
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npinks
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i really hope they wasn't doing it for a £3000 whiplash claim Shocked

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DBA



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RR quality... ah...
Not very convincing in terms of quality and safety of the vehicle.

Probably the doors had either deformed and couldn't be opened (being a minor accident, it would mean it is not a safe vehicle at all) or there was electric problem and the doors could not be opened, also not good.

All in all, quite bad for RR.
Hope a representative from RR would inspect the vehicle to see what went wrong.

Post #402722 Mon Nov 18 2013 3:55pm
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npinks
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and what exactly gives you that assumption? Rolling Eyes

in the UK if the occupant has a suspected back injury, they take the roof off to get the back boards in to protect them from any further damage

the drivers side doors are open in the second roof off picture and that the side that took the hit, the roof on picture shows the door open too on the passenger side

Post #402723 Mon Nov 18 2013 3:59pm
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DBA



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Just thought they were not able to open the doors in time and they needed to get the passenger(s) out quickly (maybe suspected risk of fire..).

Did not know about that procedure i.e. opening the roof if they think the back might be hurt.

Anyway strange that they might think the back would be hurt in such a small collision, but again it might be the proper procedure the fireman followed.

Post #402726 Mon Nov 18 2013 4:25pm
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corrisgrey



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I expect the road was closed for six hours.

Post #402727 Mon Nov 18 2013 4:41pm
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RRSTDV8



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If the occupant is complaining of serious neck or back pain then it's not worth the risk of paralysing them so they cut the roof off.

Sadly, other examples of "health and safety" are actually just part of the liability culture we now have in the UK.

A few years ago our neighbour had a chimney fire. Fire service on scene quickly and start to get to work. They were a retained crew (as is the case in many rural areas) and a full time officer arrived to supervise. He quickly gave the crew a Censored for setting up a ladder to take a hose up to the top of the chimney. Risk assessment carried out and a mobile platform called for. Over half an hour later the platform arrived and they went up to pour water down the chimney. Why all the messing about? They can't use the ladder in that situation apparently. Now, that's driven by liability - both on the part of the employer but also on the part of the employer's insurers. The insurers say "we won't pay out" so the employer says "you don't do X if it's risky".

All of the stuff we hear about "health and safety" is nothing of the sort - it's "where there's blame there's a claim". Blame the lawyers, the insurance industry and the selfish bastards who make spurious claims. 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

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bl74beano



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That is crazy... would love to know how they justified the cutting... looking at the damage there is no way the patient was trapped and if it was for suspected spinal then they must cut a lot of cars up... Much safer and quicker ways to get patients out of a car even with spinal injuries than cutting the roof off.

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npinks
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updated today

Quote:
Here's the update from the paper. Basically lady RRS was complaining of neck and back pain. Fire fighters couldn't get seat to move back as electrics wasn't working so had to take rook off. Theres more in the newspaper article.


http://www.examiner.co.uk/news/west-yorksh...ew-6317245


sounds like they could not get power to the electric seats to move them to aid getting her out, she didn't want the roof cutting, but it was the only option

Post #402791 Tue Nov 19 2013 11:11am
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DBA



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Shocked

RRS not tested by EuroNCAP yet, but the FFRR whiplash test is marginal.
Shame they don't safety so "religiously" like Mercedes or Volvo.
This might explain her neck/back injury....

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npinks
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it might have one of those explosive breakers in, if the car is in a accident the charge goes off to disable the electrics aswell to prevent sparks

as said somewhere else today, if the designers, designed a system were the electric seats could be bypassed, with maybe a external power source carried by the fire Service Idea , or a simple case of pulling a lever to allow the electric motor to disengage to allow the seat to freely slide the lady might have been able to keep the roof in place

Post #402810 Tue Nov 19 2013 3:15pm
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