I tend to cut across their bows in to L1. Some take the hint and pull over. Most don't.

I think the problem is that L1 is seen as "the slow lane" or "the lorry lane".

What we need to do is allow undertaking but the police etc. are against it. It would likely cause a rise in incidents initially but then people would drive defensively and pull to the leftmost lane to avoid it. And if they don't then it doesn't matter anyway because you can just cruise by them on their left. 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

Undertaking is bad m'kay, but if I'm in L1 and I'm doing 70 and someone in L2 is doing 60 then afaik it's ok to pass otherwise we'd be playing musical lanes. If you're in L2 then go to L1 to pass them then go back to L2 then that is considered undertaking.

Just be thankful you're not towing.

Catching someone doing less than 60 in the middle lane, then sitting behind them for mile upon mile till they eventually realise
a: you're not alowed to overtake them
and
b: You're not going to dissapear either

and then they eventaully pull over then look at you all confused as you shake your head at them 's  RRS gone
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Audi A6 Allroad Sport 270 3.0TDI

I'm pretty sure that you can pass them if you're already in that lane. If they decide to slow down in the middle lane you shouldn't be expected to then have to slow down in your lane to match their speed or to go behind them until they move

kav1187 wrote:

Undertaking is bad m'kay, but if I'm in L1 and I'm doing 70 and someone in L2 is doing 60 then afaik it's ok to pass otherwise we'd be playing musical lanes. If you're in L2 then go to L1 to pass them then go back to L2 then that is considered undertaking.

Quote:

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Do not overtake on the left or move to a lane on your left to overtake. In congested conditions, where adjacent lanes of traffic are moving at similar speeds, traffic in left-hand lanes may sometimes be moving faster than traffic to the right. In these conditions you may keep up with the traffic in your lane even if this means passing traffic in the lane to your right. Do not weave in and out of lanes to overtake.

kav1187 wrote:

I'm pretty sure that you can pass them if you're already in that lane. If they decide to slow down in the middle lane you shouldn't be expected to then have to slow down in your lane to match their speed or to go behind them until they move

Fair play awd man...these careless lane hoggers can often be unpredictable.

RRSTDV8 - thanks for the link. IMO overtaking and passing are two different things. I'd understand if I was in L2 then went to L1 to overtake but if I'm already in L1 then I'm not overtaking him I'm just passing in my own lane.

Worse on a two lane A road when someone just decides to stay in the outside lane because they know that in 11 miles they will come to a round about and they want to go right!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 Spud

I have lost the plot with these idiots for many years complete and utter pond life IMO. I read somewhere that they cause more hold ups and traffic jams than anything else in the country and if they pulled over, especially at rush hours, then we would have a lot less congestion. Personally I also blame the highways people for not acting more on this or mentioning it on radio stations. You could post something up on those bloody useless but expensive great black info boards for a start ( although I might not be as subtle as they would) rather than giving me old hand info that theres a tail back in Blackpool when Im heading along the M4 to Wales  2007 Black on Black colour coded TDV8

kav1187 wrote:

Fair play awd man...these careless lane hoggers can often be unpredictable.

RRSTDV8 - thanks for the link. IMO overtaking and passing are two different things. I'd understand if I was in L2 then went to L1 to overtake but if I'm already in L1 then I'm not overtaking him I'm just passing in my own lane.

RRSTDV8 wrote:

kav1187 wrote:

Fair play awd man...these careless lane hoggers can often be unpredictable.

RRSTDV8 - thanks for the link. IMO overtaking and passing are two different things. I'd understand if I was in L2 then went to L1 to overtake but if I'm already in L1 then I'm not overtaking him I'm just passing in my own lane.

Yeah, good luck explaining that to a traffic rozzer...

Why it's what the Highway Code says! The links above  Mike

2014 Facelift Discovery

I seen this about two years ago on the A19 just before the A690 Sunderland turnoff, both lanes were travelling at about 40mph then the inside lane started to speed up to 50ish. I was in the outside lane behind a BMW 330 with a guy travelling on his own who was getting more and more annoyed and sounding his horn every now and then. As the inside lane got faster but ours slowed he decided to just jump lanes and sounding the horn again drove straight into a Focus ST that was being followed by an RS Octavia, the BMW pushed the ST into the hard shoulder and the driver was giving every hand signal not in the highway code to the RS who then turned on his sirens and blue lights in the front grille!!!!
The focus was also a police car with two plain clothes very angry coppers in it.  Spud

Love it when the Mr Angrys of this world pick on coppers instead of innocent motorists.

"Now Sir, blow in to this please and hand over your documents. Oh, and you're nicked for DLAC"




(For those who don't know, DLAC = Driving Like A C t ) 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

You know what else grinds my gears? Ebay sellers blaming Royal Mail for parcels going 'missing' when they were never really sent in the first place! I've had this a lot over the last few months. Royal Mail get a bad name because people are too lazy/stupid/inefficient to send the items out on time.

They never have proof of postage and are always happy to 're-send' the item no questions asked.

These people, my good people, are the people that really grind my gears!