Tonyrec wrote:

It always makes me smile when I see delivery tankers leaving the refinery. Same fuel with different vehicles.
Next time you see a white unmarked tanker on the road, follow it and it will be either on it's way or having left a Supermarket following a delivery.

Although, during the fuel demos a few years back, I did see a marked BP Tanker delivering to Sainsburys.

Ive just tried this but i ran out of fuel before it reached its destination

Everyonme is ignoring the fact that refineries are constantly blending different fuels and also different quality of base oil and chemicals.. just because it leaves the same refinery doesn't mean it's the same product

Supermarkets buy a certain "quality" at an agreed price, then they market/price it as they see fit, they do not buy the premium stuff, Esso, BP etc keep that for their premium brands.

A refinery can one month be producing diesel, and the next base oil..and the next petrol... they change according to market demand and base oil price...(either just a matter of running more of the oil through the hydrocracker to produce better quality oil/petrol depending on market prices, or distilling certain fuels only, and recycling the rest) RRS gone
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do you have any proof of that awd? ============
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my wife works in the strategic pricing of oil for one of the big guys.

I'm no expert but this is what she says "go's on"

Basic break down of a refinery distiller




If you imagine the top layer of each product is "the cream".. you can see how easy it is to seperate it and grade each sub layer

Then each layer can be run through what's called a hydrocracker, this improves the Octane characteristic of the fuel... this obviously does not get sold to supermarkets! (they would not pay the premium and it's not a market they are interested in, they are targeting the budget end of the spectrum) RRS gone
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interesting theory with what sounds like decent proof

I myself like to believe that fuel and RON/ultra/optimax etc is just classic "branding" price power at work i.e. sell it not for what it's worth but for what you can convince people to pay for it

You know, like how supermarkets outsource the production of their 'own brand' cereals to... Kellogs & co ============
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Hi,

I have a mate that works at the Kingsbury terminal (Midlands) for BP and he delievers to Sainsbury's using BP fuel but I can't speak for the others, I used Morrisons fuel once in a 330D BMW and that engine didn't like that fuel at all it seemed to have a very slight mis-fire after filling up and it lasted until I filled up again from a different garage.

Paul.

Indeed Pacmeoff

I'm not saying supermarkets sell rubbish fuel, it's all premium grade.

It's just not the "best" stuff in the refinery... BP will keep that back for their other products RRS gone
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rrsboy wrote:

interesting theory with what sounds like decent proof

I myself like to believe that fuel and RON/ultra/optimax etc is just classic "branding" price power at work i.e. sell it not for what it's worth but for what you can convince people to pay for it

You know, like how supermarkets outsource the production of their 'own brand' cereals to... Kellogs & co

i work for Kelloggs, and we do not make cereals for anybody else, never have and never will, Kelloggs in germany lost a big % of the market when Aldi said to Kelloggs, "we are no longer selling your brand, so make branded stuff for us" kelloggs sais no, they had to, otherwise every other supermarket in the world will try that on. Weetabix however do make cereals for supermarkets, they have to, as they are not big enough on there own to say no, however, weetabix only use the finest wheat for there own brand, and use cheaper wheat for the supermarkets own label, so why wouldnt petrol companies do the same ? 07,TDV8,Black, Black Heated leather all round, Rear Entertainment with Headpones & Remote, TV, DVD, Pure Dab Digital Radio, Sidesteps, Adaptive Headlights, sunroof, now working fuel burning heater )))

Took advantage today and filled up my girl with a thirst problem.........£131.82 for 97 litres and got a massive £14.55 off! Even at that price its taking the P s IMO.

The Range 'fantasy fuel guestimator' said 307 miles.........as if. It really needs something now to get these fuel prices under control.........riots, blockades.....I don't really care, so called democratic "protests and marches" serve to do nothing else but allow the publicly placed powers at be to do absolutely nothing, they love it.......... hilarity is, to protest..you have to notify the authorities first - thoroughly shameful and hardly cricket is it?

Regardless of who delivers fuel to whom, they all form part of this racket, if the government supposedly giveth (as they did with the HUGE 1p reduction last year ), the oily ones taketh.

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Beancounter_74 wrote:

Possibly true Nick, Ive worked for refineing and exploration oil co's and I was always lead to believe that the differences were urban myths.
I think if there were any major differences in quality, the bigger branded companies would cite that in their advertising,

I'd like a blind test

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